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[liberationtech] Fwd: Haystack

Jim Youll jyoull at
Thu Aug 19 10:31:55 PDT 2010

On Aug 19, 2010, at 6:42 AM, Mahmood Enayat wrote:

> The big players of circumvention solutions, which have received less attention, are all available here: , Why Haystack is not available online like them?  

Cat and mouse can be played, yes.
But this technology is looking more and more like merely a way for privileged, warm, well-fed, free, safe Westerners to feel good about themselves while putting already at-risk populations at even greater risk of trouble.

Laws, guns, and prisons trump technological finesse. Period. This is not negotiable.

Keep in mind that US companies providing equipment to Internet providers are also providing access and monitoring capabilities in that equipment... at full OC3 speeds... 

How many of the people known to have been arrested or silenced were using, or thought they were using, some kind of 'safe' technology to subvert both technological blockades and national laws? Until we know that, should we be prescribing these cures to patients we've never met and can't watch over?

"...But Chinese surfers often use proxy servers - websites abroad that let surfers reach blocked sites - to evade the Great Red Firewall. Such techniques are routinely posted online or exchanged in chat rooms. But China's 45 million internet users face considerable penalties if they are found looking at banned sites. According to human rights activists, dozens of people have been arrested for their online activities on subversion charges."

... Those attempting to access these banned sites are automatically reported to the Public Security Bureau. Internet police in cities such as Xi'an and Chongqing can reportedly trace the activities of the users without their knowledge and monitor their online activities by various technical means."

"...Around 30 journalists were known to be in prison and at least 50 individuals were in prison for posting their views on the internet. People were often punished simply for accessing banned websites"

"... The ministry of public security said 5,394 people had been arrested and that over 9,000 websites had been deleted for having pornographic content. The ministry did not say how many people had subsequently been put on trial. The authorities released the figures with a warning that its policing of the internet would intensify in 2010 in order to preserve 'state security'. China maintains strict censorship of the internet in order to make sure that unhealthy content, including criticism of the Communist Party, does not reach a wide audience."

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