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[liberationtech] Dave Winer calls for a Web Trust

Brock Dubbels brock.dubbels at
Mon Dec 13 14:42:21 PST 2010

I saw this and thought it was an interesting that people are using video
games to sidestep censorship and offer social commentary in China

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Rebecca MacKinnon <
rebecca.mackinnon at> wrote:

> A Web Trust to publish and store our creative work
> By Dave Winer on Monday, December 13, 2010 at 12:09 PM.
> The discussion at this weekend's flash conf<>in NYC on WikiLeaks
> raised <> the
> question of where we can store our web writing and photos so that they are
> as safe as they possibly can be. Trusting corporations to manage this is
> obviously not a good idea. If this was theoretical before, it's now
> pragmatic, after Amazon cut off WikiLeaks.  [image: Permanent link to this
> item in the archive.]<>
> That suggests that we need a new kind of institution that is is part news
> organization, university, library and foundation -- that acts as a guarantor
> of best-possible freedom from corporate and government limitations. We
> already know some things about this organization, I believe. [image:
> Permanent link to this item in the archive.]<>
> These are just back-of-the-envelope scribbles. Consider this a
> discussion-starter for the next meetup. [image: Permanent link to this
> item in the archive.]<>
> 1. It must be *long-lived*, like a university -- probably with an
> endowment, and a board of trustees, and operations limited to what's
> described below. It can't operate any other kind of business.  [image:
> Permanent link to this item in the archive.]<>
> 2. It must create a least-common-denominator storage system that is
> accessible through HTTP. Everything must be done with *open formats* and
> protocols, meaning all components of its system are replaceable.  [image:
> Permanent link to this item in the archive.]<>
> 3. It must cost money, so the *user is a customer* and is treated as one.
> This also allows the vendor to assume its own independence from the
> interests of the publisher who uses the system. The same way the operator of
> a printing press was not responsible for the words he or she printed on the
> paper. [image: Permanent link to this item in the archive.]<>
> 4. *Simplicity* of the user experience is primary so it can be accessible
> to as many as possible, and so that technical people don't provide yet
> another filter for the free flow of ideas. Factor and re-factor for
> simplicity. [image: Permanent link to this item in the archive.]<>
> 5. The trust must serve the bits exactly as they were published. *No
> advertising*.  [image: Permanent link to this item in the archive.]<>
> That's where I want to pick up the discussion. [image: Permanent link to
> this item in the archive.]<>
> --
> Rebecca MacKinnon
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Best regards,


Brock R. Dubbels
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One of the greatest mistakes of our day is to think of movement by itself,
as standing apart from higher functions . . . Mental development must be
dependent  on it. It is vital that educational  theory and practice should
become informed by this idea . . . Watching a child makes it obvious that
the development of his mind comes about through his movements . . . Mind and
movement are parts of the same entity.

Montessori, 1967, pp 141-142

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