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[liberationtech] on the traceability of circumvention tools

Jacob Appelbaum jacob at
Fri Sep 17 00:28:22 PDT 2010

On 09/17/2010 12:11 AM, Mehdi Yahyanejad wrote:
>> In any case, I'm not sure what you mean by "Tor simply doesn't have much
>> traction in Iran" when we clearly have many users:
>> The recent graphs looks like about 40,000 people were using Tor at the
>> end of August from Iran.
> I appreciate that you shared the updated data. I hadn't checked it during the 
> past two months. The numbers I had recalled were only a few thousands which
> based on your graphs was the case up until two months ago. I didn't consider 
> a few thousands significant compared to how ultrasurf/freegate was doing. It 
> seems Tor has made quite a bit of progress in the past two months. That's great. 

Where are their numbers for Ultrasurf and Freegate?

Without citations, I'm simply unmoved by your statements. I'm sorry to
be difficult but I feel that you're being unreasonable with your claims
unless you can provide data or proof to backup your assertions.


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