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[liberationtech] Deconstructing the security risks narrative of Haystack

Alec Muffett alec.muffett at
Sat Sep 18 11:41:01 PDT 2010

> This is an easy story to tell, but the reality was a little more subtle
> than that, and I'd hate to see this behind the final take on what the
> project was about. There really was substance, and real effort, and as I
> said in a Wired interview, it's immensely frustrating to see what
> substance there was ignored and to be evaluated on the basis of this
> test program.

Daniel, I'm very sympathetic, I think you've had a really rough time, but the fact is that without disclosure of the source code nobody is going to attest that you created something of substance and quality, although I hardly doubt that there was considerable effort involved.

Unfortunately substance has to be measured either directly, or in terms of its impact - and at the moment the latter is a no-go.

Even direct analysis of the code would lead to debate of what-could-be-done-better.  It sucks.  But them's the breaks of closed source...


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