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[liberationtech] NYT report on Obama admin's wiretap plans

Thomas Smyth thomas.smyth at
Mon Sep 27 14:26:40 PDT 2010

Perhaps to a fledgling competitor who provides a secure alternative using
available technologies and ends up growing appreciably as a result of this
selling point??  If you're arguing that a strong market position makes a
company not care about the quality of its product I think that's a flawed

On 27 September 2010 17:22, Jim Youll <jyoull at> wrote:

> On Sep 27, 2010, at 2:18 PM, Thomas Smyth wrote:
> > That links to a document from Skype that describes how to get billing
> records and other records.  Also, the document explicitly says that
> Skype-to-Skype calls and chats don't create billing records, and that Skype
> doesn't keep login/logout records. To me it reads almost like a tacit 'up
> yours' to whoever is doing the legal spying.
> >
> > Yes there could be bugs or backdoors in Skype's software, but absent some
> incentive for Skype to keep them secret and not patch them (which I can't
> fathom) I don't know why they would.  Unless some legislation compels Skype
> to create a backdoor, it would seem their interest is in keeping things a
> secure as possible, right?
> Why?
> Let's say Skype were revealed tomorrow to have wiretapping capabilities in
> it.
> Their user base, paying $0 for online calls already, and actual money for
> profitable POTS-gatewayed calls (tappable) will turn to  ________ (what) in
> mass exodus?
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