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[liberationtech] Did Libya cut off the internet today in Benghazi?

Jacob Appelbaum jacob at
Wed Dec 14 09:42:59 PST 2011

On 12/13/2011 12:09 PM, Brian Conley wrote:
> Adrian,
> Nice to hear from you, but unfortunately I have to disagree. This would be
> completely likely, however not as a coordinated action by the NTC as a
> whole, primarily because the NTC are not a monolithic body, and their
> actions have been highly nontransparent.
> I have been hoping to connect with you since Jesse Hambley formerly of LiNK
> suggested we talk. I'd also be interested to hear more about your
> interactions with NTC, and whether you might have a list of the entire 48
> names who allegedly selected the new Prime Minister. I've posted this
> report based on a variety of comments from people inside Libya, reporters
> and Libyan citizens.
> If we do locate any evidence I'll let you know, and I'd be happy to discuss
> further off list or schedule a time to talk by phone!
> cheers
> Brian
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Adrian Hong <a at> wrote:
>> I spoke with a high-level source in the NTC who argued that this was
>> simply a rumor. I know the leadership well enough to argue that this would
>> be highly unlikely and inconsistent with their behavior and approach. There
>> have been internet outages throughout the country particularly in the past
>> few weeks as systems get rebuilt; it may just be a matter of coincidence.
>> That being said, if there is real evidence, I would be interested in
>> seeing it so I can bring it to their attention.


Please consider encouraging the NTC and others that run ISPs in the
region to run at least one public and open looking glass system:


It's one of many indicators about the status of the network freedom in a
country. It's interesting to note that most of the MENA region is
without public looking glass servers or routers for the public to
inspect. Such a lack of access makes data gathering such as the kind
required to solve this question very difficult from *inside* the country
without special efforts.

I'd be happy to help monitor the networks in Libya if someone with large
scale access would contact me off list.

All the best,

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