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[liberationtech] IGP Blog :: Technology as symbol: Is resistance to surveillance technology being misdirected?

Evgeny Morozov evgeny.morozov at gmail.com
Sat Dec 24 11:00:23 PST 2011


I was reading Bloomberg's excellent
account<http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-12/tunisia-after-revolt-can-alter-e-mails-with-big-brother-software.html>of
Tunisia's Ammar 404 project and came upon this interesting nugget that
concerns the author of the blog post in question: apparently, Milton
Mueller has a two-year National Science Foundation grant to study deep
packet inspection, with a focus on China and Iran (more on this
here<http://www.syr.edu/news/articles/2010/ischool-milton-mueller-09-10.html>).
There is nothing nefarious about it but it surely adds some context to the
views he expresses.


On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Katrin Verclas <katrin at mobileactive.org>wrote:

> I knew you were going to hit back (though I expected a bit harder :)
>  Anyone rebut this in an actual blog post or other written piece? Not
> finding anything but he has a point in his argument that simplistic
> measures can truly backfire... (I am reminded of the conflict mobile
> mineral disaster...)
>
>
> On Dec 21, 2011, at 6:09 PM, Andre Rebentisch wrote:
>
> > Am 21.12.2011 19:04, schrieb Katrin Verclas:
> >> Some interesting questions raised here about advocacy efforts re.
> surveillance tech. Main point: it's complicated and we need a more nuanced
> conversation about our collective advocacy goals.
> >>
> >> Brett, Eric, Jacob and all - discuss..
> >>
> >>
> http://blog.internetgovernance.org/blog/_archives/2011/12/20/4962713.html
> >
> > "First, we need to stop pretending that a specific type of technology
> > and a few commercial vendors can be vested with responsibility for an
> > entire societal system of repression and control."
> >
> > Another Milton Mueller: "You can only ban behaviors, i.e. specific uses,
> > not "capabilities.""
> >
> > All this is, understood, 199x cyber-libertarian ideology, but has
> > nothing to do with tightening export controls crn consulting services
> > for surveillance and military capabilities of dictatorial regimes.
> >
> > Ironically, Art 41 UN Charta provides for sanctions limiting
> > telecommunication while the current debate is centered around the exact
> > opposite.
> >
> > --- A
>
>
> Katrin Verclas
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