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[liberationtech] IGP Blog :: Technology as symbol: Is resistance to surveillance technology being misdirected?
evgeny.morozov at gmail.com
Sat Dec 24 11:00:23 PST 2011
I was reading Bloomberg's excellent
Tunisia's Ammar 404 project and came upon this interesting nugget that
concerns the author of the blog post in question: apparently, Milton
Mueller has a two-year National Science Foundation grant to study deep
packet inspection, with a focus on China and Iran (more on this
There is nothing nefarious about it but it surely adds some context to the
views he expresses.
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Katrin Verclas <katrin at mobileactive.org>wrote:
> I knew you were going to hit back (though I expected a bit harder :)
> Anyone rebut this in an actual blog post or other written piece? Not
> finding anything but he has a point in his argument that simplistic
> measures can truly backfire... (I am reminded of the conflict mobile
> mineral disaster...)
> On Dec 21, 2011, at 6:09 PM, Andre Rebentisch wrote:
> > Am 21.12.2011 19:04, schrieb Katrin Verclas:
> >> Some interesting questions raised here about advocacy efforts re.
> surveillance tech. Main point: it's complicated and we need a more nuanced
> conversation about our collective advocacy goals.
> >> Brett, Eric, Jacob and all - discuss..
> > "First, we need to stop pretending that a specific type of technology
> > and a few commercial vendors can be vested with responsibility for an
> > entire societal system of repression and control."
> > Another Milton Mueller: "You can only ban behaviors, i.e. specific uses,
> > not "capabilities.""
> > All this is, understood, 199x cyber-libertarian ideology, but has
> > nothing to do with tightening export controls crn consulting services
> > for surveillance and military capabilities of dictatorial regimes.
> > Ironically, Art 41 UN Charta provides for sanctions limiting
> > telecommunication while the current debate is centered around the exact
> > opposite.
> > --- A
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