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[liberationtech] Tahrir

Jacob Appelbaum jacob at
Sat Dec 24 23:28:13 PST 2011

On 12/24/2011 11:11 PM, Ian Clarke wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 1:03 AM, Ian Clarke <ian.clarke at> wrote:
>> On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 12:58 AM, Jacob Appelbaum <jacob at>wrote:
>>>  > Yes, we do collect similar statistics that allow us to evaluate network
>>>> size, here is an example:  (it is from
>>> last
>>>> year, the live graphs are available on Freenet).
>>> Ah, nice! Is there a page that describes your methodology and how one
>>> may contribute?
> Oh, and as for methodology, this paper is quite general and pretty
> up-to-date:

Great - thanks.

> On the more theoretical side, Oskar Sandberg's PhD thesis covers our
> routing model:  (it's a fairly
> easy read despite being from more of a mathematical than a compsci
> perspective).
> I'm assuming here that you're asking about Freenet, rather than Tahrir.
>  Oskar's thesis is also relevant to Tahrir though, as it will also rely on
> the neighbor selection heuristic, and the distributed routing approach (for
> "darknet" functionality, and ad-hoc routing).

I'm curious as to what you think about Christian Gruthoff's work on
attacking FreeNet ( and
how the project has grown since the time of his analysis?

All the best,

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