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[liberationtech] BREAKING NEWS: China activists start Jasmine revolution

Collin Anderson collin at averysmallbird.com
Sun Feb 20 17:40:25 PST 2011


Diaspora's relation to on-the-ground activism seems to be
a reoccurring question in this area, at least in terms of efficacy. I think
we've seen a couple instances where their participation meaningfully
affected outcomes (Romania 2009) or drove a media narrative (Iran's Green
Movement). I'm curious if the list has any suggestions on literature about
diaspora and politicking from a distance.

CDA

On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 3:52 AM, Yosem Companys <companys at stanford.edu>wrote:

> I should also note that these things seem to work better when home grown,
> not when the Diaspora initiates the call.
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Yosem Companys <companys at stanford.edu>wrote:
>
>> Here's what I've learned.  It seems the Chinese Diaspora started it.  The
>> China censors had blocked the word Egypt, so they began sharing the word
>> jasmine and setting times for protest.  But they came out in 13 cities, some
>> did better than others.  But in each one police vans arrived and picked up
>> people and took them away.  There were 100 in Beijing at a McDonald's.
>>  There were people going to universities, but the police prevented them from
>> getting together.  They were all wearing flowers, which made it easier for
>> the police to identify them.  Some people were arrested at their homes
>> before they could drive to protests.  In short, it seems not to have worked.
>>  Lesson seems to be that successful democracy movements are able to build
>> critical mass (Tunisia, Egypt, Libya & Bahrain -- to some extent),
>> unsuccessful ones are stopped before they can build critical mass (Algeria,
>> Syria & China).
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 11:57 PM, Terry Winograd <
>> winograd at cs.stanford.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> BEIJING — Authorities rounded up dozens of dissidents and cracked down
>>> on calls for a "Jasmine Revolution," which urged demonstrations in
>>> more than a dozen Chinese cities Sunday apparently modeled after the
>>> wave of pro-democracy protests sweeping the Middle East.
>>> The source of the call was not known and many activists seemed not to
>>> know what to make of it, even as they spread the word. They said they
>>> were unaware of any known group being involved in the request for
>>> citizens to gather in 13 cities and shout, "We want food, we want
>>> work, we want housing, we want fairness."
>>>
>>> more....
>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41678825/ns/world_news-asiapacific/
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 11:50 PM, Yosem Companys <companys at stanford.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Protests in 13 cities, over 100 in McDonald's in Beijing, police
>>> cracking
>>> > down.
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