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[liberationtech] Not another Haystack right?

10 com 10com at operamail.com
Tue Nov 29 07:35:04 PST 2011


Dear all, discussing this topic,

Would it be possible to 'translate' what you're discussing into
an article or blogpost in wordings understandable for normal
computer users. It seems of great importance. After writing,
spreading the link via socmed and this mailing list
thnx

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10 com
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On Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:30 AM, "Collin Anderson"
<collin at averysmallbird.com> wrote:

Michael,



Do you have permission to redistribute JVM packages? Otherwise,
it would seem to be a violation of copyright and sanctions (were
any operational elements in the US).



What troubles me is the manner this discussion was started.
Certainly, we should express deep skepticism toward any tool that
is released, but Yosem, your title was quite
curtly accusatory and without any support!



Collin


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  On Tuesday, November 29, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Michael Rogers
  wrote:

Hi Jillian,

Thanks for raising this point. Do you know whether US export
controls
prevent a third party in a third country from redistributing Java
(subject to copyright restrictions) to users in Syria?

Cheers,
Michael

On 29/11/11 14:53, Jillian C. York wrote:

I'd also remember that Syrians (and perhaps others) are barred by
US
export controls from downloading Java.

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:39 AM, Michael Rogers <[3]m-- at gmx.com
<[4]mailto:m-- at gmx.com>> wrote:

Good call, I'll make sure we show a warning at startup if the
JVM's out
of date.

Cheers,
Michael

On 29/11/11 14:37, Fran Parker wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> Then maybe you could recommend that people upgrade their Java
to the
> latest stable version if they plan to use the product before it
goes to
> C or C++ version?
>
> I wouldn't dream of running any Java based program without
using the
> latest stable (presumably safer) version. I have seen many
folks still
> running *cringe* version Update 5.x!
>
> Especially when you are talking about people's lives...
>
> Maybe something to think about anyway...
>
> Fran
>
> On 11/29/11 9:31 AM, Michael Rogers wrote:
>> Hi Fran,
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback.
>>
>> The plan is to bundle a JVM for Windows, where Java isn't
available by
>> default, and rely on the default JVM for Mac and Android.
>>
>> New JVMs are supposed to be backward compatible with old
applications,
>> so our code should run on any JVM that supports Java 1.5 or
later.
>>
>> We've also discussed porting the code to C or C++, but that
won't
happen
>> until the design stabilises.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Michael
>>
>> On 29/11/11 14:06, Fran Parker wrote:
>>> Interesting. My only concern is that it's built on Java which
has many
>>> vulnerabilities if a person is using an older version. And
newer
>>> versions can break the program entirely. Or am I missing
something?
>>>
>>> Fran
>>>
>>> On 11/29/11 7:41 AM, Yosem Companys wrote:
>>>> Briar Project aims to create a secure news& discussion
system for
>>>> people in authoritarian societies [5]http://t.co/cZtLzF7B
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