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[liberationtech] Iran To Shut Down Internet Permanently

Amin Sabeti aminsabeti at gmail.com
Wed Apr 11 04:24:13 PDT 2012


Yes, I've seen it :)

Finally they've got it!

Amin

On 11 April 2012 12:22, Walid AL-SAQAF <alkasir admin> <admin at alkasir.com>wrote:

> Hi Amin,
>
> It appears that the author has updated his story to present the Iranian
> view. Here is what he sent me today:
>
> I just wanted to share a follow-up on my earlier story on Iran’s plans of
>> National Intranet: Iran’s Denial Of Plan To Shut Down Internet: The
>> Truth Lost In Translation<http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/326517/20120411/iran-internet-intranet-censorship-tehran-world-wide.htm>
>>
>> I hope this clarifies my point.
>>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Walid
>
> -----------------
>
> Walid Al-Saqaf
> Founder & Administrator
> alkasir for mapping and circumventing cyber censorship
> https://alkasir.com <walid.al-saqaf at oru.se>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Amin Sabeti <aminsabeti at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Walid,
>>
>> I referred to Taghipour’s statement published on April 5 in Kaleme.com
>> which discussed about the final phase of National Intranet.
>> khabarnegaran.info too published a similar statement on Mar. 25.
>>
>> *Kaleme.com and other websites made a mistake because this news was
>> completely wrong and it was April Fools' Day from 2011. See here [Fa]: **
>> http://itna.ir/vdcdfk0f.yt05z6a22y.html
>> Therefore, you cannot say this is my source when your source is
>> completely wrong!*
>>
>> Iran has been intermittently blocking external sites including Google and
>> Yahoo:  http://en.rsf.org/internet-enemie-iran,39777.html and
>> http://advocacy.globalvoicesonline.org/2012/01/04/will-iran-soon-have-its-own-clean-internet/
>>
>>
>>
>> The plan is yet to be implemented and experts say that this may not be
>> feasible due to the complications it can cause to Iranian establishments.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, I have mentioned in my article that external sites will *still be
>> available*. “Foreign sites can still be accessed over the Intranet
>> provided they are mentioned in a "white list" set up by the government.” So
>> technically Internet will still be there. However Iran is definitely
>> planning on a censoring the free Internet as it already has. It will be
>> like a censored “corporate internet” as I have mentioned in my story.
>>
>>
>>
>> Though Iran has denied it they are still going ahead with the plan to
>> establish national Intranet, the denial is only regarding how comprehensive
>> the censorship is going to be.
>>
>> *
>> *
>>
>> *They hasn't denied that they want to launch National Internet and at
>> this time if you go to local website (like IRIB.ir) you can access to them
>> with high speed connection but for foreign websites like Google, speed
>> is not good however it depends on day.*
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this clears
>>
>> The point is it was completely wrong as I said, it is April Fools' day
>> from last year not this year!!!! :)
>>
>> Amin
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10 April 2012 11:45, Walid AL-SAQAF <alkasir admin> <admin at alkasir.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Amin,
>>>
>>> I agree with you on the use of the word 'permanently'. That is a fully
>>> loaded word that ought have not been used in a journalistic article seeking
>>> objectivity. However, upon reaching out to the author of that IBT story,
>>> Amrutha Gayathri, he stood by his article and explained:
>>>
>>> I referred to Taghipour’s statement published on April 5 in Kaleme.com
>>>> which discussed about the final phase of National Intranet.
>>>> khabarnegaran.info too published a similar statement on Mar. 25.
>>>>
>>>> Iran has been intermittently blocking external sites including Google
>>>> and Yahoo:  http://en.rsf.org/internet-enemie-iran,39777.html and
>>>> http://advocacy.globalvoicesonline.org/2012/01/04/will-iran-soon-have-its-own-clean-internet/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The plan is yet to be implemented and experts say that this may not be
>>>> feasible due to the complications it can cause to Iranian establishments.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Also, I have mentioned in my article that external sites will *still
>>>> be available*. “Foreign sites can still be accessed over the Intranet
>>>> provided they are mentioned in a "white list" set up by the government.” So
>>>> technically Internet will still be there. However Iran is definitely
>>>> planning on a censoring the free Internet as it already has. It will be
>>>> like a censored “corporate internet” as I have mentioned in my story.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Though Iran has denied it they are still going ahead with the plan to
>>>> establish national Intranet, the denial is only regarding how comprehensive
>>>> the censorship is going to be.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hope this clears
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I did inform him however that the title may be misleading.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Walid
>>>
>>> -----------------
>>>
>>> Walid Al-Saqaf
>>> Founder & Administrator
>>> alkasir for mapping and circumventing cyber censorship
>>> https://alkasir.com
>>> <walid.al-saqaf at oru.se>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Amin Sabeti <aminsabeti at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Ilf,
>>>>
>>>> This was April fools' day from last year (2011) and it recycled again
>>>> by one of news website in Iran this year! Iranian government cannot
>>>> disconnect users PERMANENTLY from Internet because they don't have enough
>>>> infrastructure and also there is a huge business on Internet (especially
>>>> for pro-government websites) which means they need WWW.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, this is a another myth like Haystack that media have created it
>>>> and Iran can cut off Internet in short term but it's not possible for long
>>>> term or permanently.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Amin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10 April 2012 11:06, ilf <ilf at zeromail.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://img.ibtimes.com/www/**articles/20120409/325415_iran-**
>>>>> internet-intranet-censorhip-**freedom-tehran-google.htm<http://img.ibtimes.com/www/articles/20120409/325415_iran-internet-intranet-censorhip-freedom-tehran-google.htm>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Millions of Internet users in Iran will be permanently denied access
>>>>>> to the World Wide Web and cut off from popular social networking sites and
>>>>>> email services, as the government has announced its plans to establish a
>>>>>> national Intranet within five months.
>>>>>> In a statement released Thursday, Reza Taghipour, the Iranian
>>>>>> minister for Information and Communications Technology, announced the
>>>>>> setting up of a national Intranet and the effective blockage of services
>>>>>> like Google, Gmail, Google Plus, Yahoo and Hotmail, in line with Iran's
>>>>>> plan for a "clean Internet."
>>>>>> The government is set to roll out the first phase of the project in
>>>>>> May, following which Google, Hotmail and Yahoo services will be blocked and
>>>>>> replaced with government Intranet services like Iran Mail and Iran Search
>>>>>> Engine. At this stage, however, the World Wide Web, apart from the
>>>>>> aforementioned sites, will still be accessible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> However, here Iran denies reports internet to be cut soon:
>>>>> http://english.alarabiya.net/**articles/2012/04/10/206685.**html<http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/04/10/206685.html>
>>>>>
>>>>>  The reports derived from a supposed interview with Communications
>>>>>> Minister Reza Taghipour published on April 1 that was in fact a hoax, the
>>>>>> ministry said in the statement on its own site www.ict.gov.ir --
>>>>>> which itself was not accessible outside of Iran.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone have more details?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ilf
>>>>>
>>>>> Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht
>>>>> weg!
>>>>>                -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung
>>>>>
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