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[liberationtech] Internet privacy provider

Yosem Companys companys at stanford.edu
Thu Apr 12 00:48:35 PDT 2012


Hey all,

Oops, sorry for my duplicate email on Declan's article about Nick's
project. I've been away doing research the past couple of days, and I
missed Terry's original email that started this thread.

I'd just like to note that Nick is on this list, and I'm sure he'd welcome
your questions and feedback on his project.  He really has the best of
intentions and lots of experience, so I really hope he succeeds where
others have struggled.  To do that, though, he'll need all the help he can
get from the larger liberationtech community.

Best,

Yosem

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Shava Nerad <shava23 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, there's managing expectations, and there's also outright lies, like
> saying you won't sell information and then charging admin fees for
> compiling it for law enforcement requests even when they don't present
> warrants, as AT&T has for cell phone data according to the ACLU.
>
> So do you want to go for someone with an ACLU lifetime achievement award
> for resisting and fighting a National Security Letter in his 30s as a John
> Doe, with good intentions (with all the possible limitations thereon) ---
> or go with, you know, AT&T?  Or Google?  Or...  hmmm...  Dunno, what's a
> better alternative.
>
> What's a better test of the system here, possibly as much to the point?
>
> I think it's worth getting behind the effort and seeing what's possible
> which is why I joined Nick's advisory. ;)  But if you know my history I
> have a weak spot for David and Goliath situations.  Most of us do.  It's
> the business of most of us on the list.
>
> Either doing that work, or sniping at it (either bitterly or to improve
> the breed or both).
>
> Carry on! :)
>
> Shava Nerad
> shava23 at gmail.com
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Jonathan Ezor <jezor at tourolaw.edu> wrote:
>
>> With respect, I'm not convinced that any provider will be able to keep
>> such a promise even if it intends to, given the number of upstream and
>> downstream providers involved in Internet connectivity. I'm also reminded
>> of the example of the anon.penet.fi remailer:
>>
>> http://ezor.org/k8d8h
>>
>> {Jonathan}
>>
>> -------------------
>> Prof. Jonathan I. Ezor
>> Assistant Professor of Law
>> Director, Institute for Business, Law and Technology (IBLT)
>> Touro Law Center
>> 225 Eastview Drive, Central Islip, NY  11722
>> Direct: 631-761-7119
>> e-mail: jezor at tourolaw.edu; PGP key 0xFBA73A9E
>> Skype: jonathanezor     Twitter: profjonathan
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: liberationtech-bounces at lists.stanford.edu [mailto:
>> liberationtech-bounces at lists.stanford.edu] On Behalf Of Terry Winograd
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 5:55 PM
>> To: Liberation Technologies
>> Subject: [liberationtech] Internet privacy provider
>>
>> "This Internet provider pledges to put your privacy first. Always.
>> Step aside, AT&T and Verizon. A new privacy-protecting Internet service
>> and telephone provider still in the planning stages could become the ACLU's
>> dream and the FBI's worst nightmare."
>>
>> by Declan McCullagh in CNET
>>
>>
>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57412225-281/this-internet-provider-pledges-to-put-your-privacy-first-always/
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> Shava Nerad
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>
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