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[liberationtech] Appelbaum's Ultrasurf report

Jacob Appelbaum jacob at
Tue Apr 17 16:13:59 PDT 2012

On 04/17/2012 07:01 PM, Walid AL-SAQAF <alkasir admin> wrote:
> Hi Jake,
> Thanks for your positive reaction. I'm  all for openness and transparency.
> Let's discuss privately on how to move forward.

Hi Walid,

I'm actually quite open to a private discussion but I wonder if you'd
humor me? I'd like to show everyone how these things can be done openly
and honestly - without any he-said, she-said nonsense or mudslinging.

I'd encourage you to set the example by writing a post here that
explains your ideas, your threat model, your designs, your
implementation and so on. It would be a great discussion, I'd bet and I
think we'd all be able to contribute in some way.

If nothing else, I think we can show that openness is possible and that
we can all work together, without special cliques or anything of that
nature. All of us together will have great insights, certainly more than
me alone, I promise. :)

So just to say it - thanks for proposing that you'd even discuss your
system and be open to third party review - that's a really good first
sign and frankly, friendly, a welcome attitude!

All the best,

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