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[liberationtech] When It Comes to Human Rights, There Are No Online Security Shortcuts | Threat Level |

Katrin Verclas katrin at
Fri Aug 10 12:07:43 PDT 2012

Patrick, care to comment? You might also want to review the conversation on the libtech list (all 62 messages) where a lot of issues related to Cyrptocat and security and activism has been discussed in great detail, and with a lot of thought and care.

(And, for the record, I have no editorial judgement one way or another - really just shared a link here.  I have appreciated, however, the really good conversation on this on libtech)


On Aug 10, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Nadim Kobeissi wrote:

> I'm sorry to have to say this, but this piece seems to expressly
> ignore a lot of the research and discussion that's already happened
> about Cryptocat and (I'm sorry) is very self-promotional of Ball and
> Martus. The discussion around improving code delivery, which has been
> going on for months, is completely ignored and instead there's a
> picture of Patrick Ball in an article in which he asks Cryptocat to
> 'consult experts.' If Mr. Ball had bothered weighing into any
> conversation before writing this piece, or contacting me at all, I
> would perceive the article as far more honest.
> NK
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 6:15 AM, Katrin Verclas <katrin at> wrote:
>> and Ball from Martus/Benetech weighs in...
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