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[liberationtech] /. ITU Approves Deep Packet Inspection

Eugen Leitl eugen at
Wed Dec 5 11:10:39 PST 2012

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From: Tom Taylor <tom.taylor.stds at>
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 14:01:41 -0500
To: nanog at
Subject: Re: /. ITU Approves Deep Packet Inspection
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I'm seriously not clear why Y.2770 is characterized as "negotiated behind 
closed doors". Any drafts were available to all participants in the ITU-T, 
on exactly the same terms as drafts of other Recommendations. As an 
example, the draft coming out of the October, 2011 meeting can be seen at (I have access 
delegated by a vendor to whom I have been consulting, by virtue of their 
membership in the ITU-T.)

I should mention that the "Next Generation Network" within the context of 
which this draft was developed is more likely to be implemented by  
old-line operators than by pure internet operations.

Tom Taylor

On 05/12/2012 4:34 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> ITU Approves Deep Packet Inspection
> Posted by Soulskill on Tuesday December 04, @08:19PM
> from the inspect-my-encryption-all-you'd-like dept.
> dsinc sends this quote from Techdirt about the International
> Telecommunications Union's ongoing conference in Dubai that will have an
> effect on the internet everywhere: "One of the concerns is that decisions
> taken there may make the Internet less a medium that can be used to enhance
> personal freedom than a tool for state surveillance and oppression. The new
> Y.2770 standard is entitled 'Requirements for deep packet inspection in Next
> Generation Networks', and seeks to define an international standard for deep
> packet inspection (DPI). As the Center for Democracy & Technology points out,
> it is thoroughgoing in its desire to specify technologies that can be used to
> spy on people. One of the big issues surrounding WCIT and the ITU has been
> the lack of transparency — or even understanding what real transparency might
> be. So it will comes as no surprise that the new DPI standard was negotiated
> behind closed doors, with no drafts being made available."

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