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[liberationtech] was: Forbes recommends tools for journalist; is now: depressing realities

James S. Tyre jstyre at
Wed Dec 19 11:41:58 PST 2012

Great posts by Jake and Danny.  Jake wrote:

> I think it is more than one thing - so in some cases, it is a matter of simply
> ignoring the facts; try talking to people about NSA Warrantless wiretaping program and
> the data (which by the way, I'm confident has been used in the WikiLeaks
> investigation) produced by it of US citizens on US soil. Eyes will glaze over and
> people will simply refuse to discuss it. Quite depressing. In some cases, I agree that
> even if we know that is/has/will/etc happen - some people don't really understand the
> magnitude of the surveillance state.

For anyone interested and with an extra almost three hours to kill, there was a
significant court hearing on Friday in Jewel v. NSA.  It was video'd under an experimental
pilot program, the video is at

Sadly, a proprietary format that won't play well with Linux.

James S. Tyre
Law Offices of James S. Tyre
10736 Jefferson Blvd., #512
Culver City, CA 90230-4969
jstyre at
Policy Fellow, Electronic Frontier Foundation

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