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[liberationtech] Google Hangout the new, better skype? Was Re: Skype redux

Brian Conley brianc at
Fri Dec 21 09:03:02 PST 2012

Thanks Andrew,

So I guess I'd say, who is going to fund a competitor to skype built on
jitsi? Without a. Convenient easy to use GUI b. Sexy advocates and adopters
and c. A marketing plan you aren't going to compete with Skype, Google
Hangout, etc.

If security and privacy experts and developers are serious about broad
adoption of their tools and not just building a closed club of
cryptoexperts shouting "fire!" We have to work this out. I'm pretty busy
with my own work developing a secure by design storytelling and journalism
tool, but I'm happy to assist getting a jitsi based communications tool out

On Dec 21, 2012 11:29 AM, <liberationtech at> wrote:

> On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 06:52:35 -0800
> Brian Conley <brianc at> wrote:
> > So I guess the question is, is there a more/similarly convenient
> > video/audio chatting tool that can be advocated as a standard?
> Here's a single data point, extrapolate at your peril, I use Jitsi,
> I use jitsi daily for all my phone calls, text chats, and video chats.
> It's not as slick as Skype, yet. It's just a piece of software, you
> need to setup your own chat or voip accounts. It works with gchat,
> facebook, aol, msn, etc. It just works. It's effectively the open
> source version of skype. It's the same UI and functionality across
> operating systems (windows, macs, linux, bsds). I've watched non-tech
> people figure it out in 10 minutes and start chatting/calling, etc.
> I have zrtp-encrypted video and voice chats with people around the
> world. I can share my screen so others can see what I'm doing. For
> zrtp-encryption and screen sharing, all parties have to use jitsi. And
> OTR-wrapped text chat works well so far with any client on the other
> end.
> It's still a work in progress, much like Skype was when it was first
> released, but it's functional and gets out of the way so you can
> communicate. My $0.02.
> --
> Andrew
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