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[liberationtech] google follows twitter

James Losey jameswlosey at gmail.com
Thu Feb 2 18:17:27 PST 2012


Thanks Craig and Robert for your responses.

This sounds like an opportunity to define a best practice on how
international companies approach multi-jurisdictional restrictions as well
as how users can proactively circumvent the restrictions of their given
country. Has anyone been pursuing this, or planning to post about this?

J

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Robert Guerra <rguerra at privaterra.org>wrote:

> James, yes - with simple techniques - users can disable content being
> blocked in their country. However, user needs to be proactive.
>
> I see the ccTLD redirection as opening other jurisdictional issues. I
> prefer the twitter approach..
>
> Will be interesting to see if national authorities that require content to
> be blocked will also require intermediaries to disable user configurable
> circumvention techniques - such as setting cookies and/or country settings .
>
> Robert
>
>
> --
> R. Guerra
> Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081
> Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom
> Email: rguerra at privaterra.org
>
> On 2012-02-02, at 8:49 PM, Craig Blaha wrote:
>
> > Hi James,
> >
> > Google offers some advice:
> >
> > If you visit a blog that does not correspond to your current location as
> > determined by your IP address, the blogspot servers will redirect you to
> > the domain associated with your country, if it’s a supported ccTLD.
> >
> > Blog readers may request a specific country version of the blogspot
> content
> > by entering a specially formatted “NCR” URL.
> >
> > NCR stands for “No Country Redirect” and will always display
> > buzz.blogger.com in English, whether you’re in India, Brazil, Honduras,
> > Germany, or anywhere.
> >
> > For example: http://[blogname].blogspot.com/ncr – always goes to the
> U.S.
> > English blog.
> >
> > This special URL sets a short-lived cookie (session and/or a short life
> > time) that will prevent geo-based redirection from the requested domain.
> > This applies to all web browsers and all Operating Systems.
> >
> >
> >
> > Craig
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 7:23 PM, James Losey <jameswlosey at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Robert and Jillian,
> >>
> >> Thanks you both for your input. If I understand correctly, Twitter has a
> >> bit of a "wink wink nudge nudge <
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ona-RhLfRfc>"
> >> suggestion that if users can pretend they are in another country then
> their
> >> tweets have a significantly greater likely hood of not being censored by
> >> said country. But if Google users are now being assigned to the
> appropriate
> >> ccTLD is this a new priority to institute geographic identification and
> are
> >> there reasonably easy ways to circumvent?
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> J
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Robert Guerra <rguerra at privaterra.org
> >>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Jillian,
> >>>
> >>> Yes Google has been dealing with content (ie. blocking) on a per
> country
> >>> basis for a while.  what is new is that they will now direct users to
> >> their
> >>> Country Code Top Level Domains (ccTLD)'s. In so doing they are moving
> the
> >>> user to the jurisdiction of the ccTLD operator - and any legal
> framework,
> >>> requirements and/or other regulations that they may have.
> >>>
> >>> So the user is being brought closer to a national level authority,
> >>> something which wasn't the case before.
> >>>
> >>> Robert
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> R. Guerra
> >>> Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081
> >>> Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom
> >>> Email: rguerra at privaterra.org
> >>>
> >>> On 2012-02-02, at 6:45 PM, Jillian C. York wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Sort of...Google has been managing content removal on a per-country
> >> basis
> >>>> for YouTube for awhile now, if I recall.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Eric S Johnson <
> >> crates at oneotaslopes.org
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> "Migrating to localized domains will allow us to continue promoting
> >> free
> >>>>> expression and responsible publishing while providing greater
> >>> flexibility
> >>>>> in
> >>>>> complying with valid removal requests pursuant to local law. By
> >>> utilizing
> >>>>> ccTLDs, content removals can be managed on a per country basis, which
> >>> will
> >>>>> limit their impact to the smallest number of readers. Content removed
> >>> due
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> a specific country's law will only be removed from the relevant
> >> ccTLD."
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://support.google.com/blogger/bin/answer.py?hl=en
> >>>>> <
> http://support.google.com/blogger/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2402711
> >>>
> >>>>> &answer=2402711
> >>>>>
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