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[liberationtech] Assange's claim about Tor losing US government support due to WikiLeaks

Fran Parker lilbambi at gmail.com
Sun Feb 19 11:10:00 PST 2012


Great questions, Evgeny. Going back to reread the Rolling Stone article 
again.

Fran

On 2/19/12 1:41 PM, Evgeny Morozov wrote:
> Those of you who've read Assange's recent interview with The Rolling
> Stone<http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/julian-assange-the-rolling-stone-interview-20120118?print=true>may
> have noticed this claim (in response to a question about forms of
> pressure that US government exerted on WikiLeaks and their supporters):
>
> The Tor Project, which protects people around the world from being spied on
>> or censored, lost some $600,000 to the U.S. government, as a result of one
>> of their people, Jacob Appelbaum, having filled in for me once at a
>> conference in New York. This type of indirect pressure has been applied to
>> a great many people.
>
>
> I was a bit puzzled by it. So were people at
> Cryptome<http://cryptome.org/2012/01/0053.htm>,
> who asked Tor about it. Here is what Andrew Lewman (who's on this list)
> wrote to them:
>
> I read this statement as well. It is news to me that we were penalized
> for Jacob. Maybe wikileaks has unreleased information from one of our
> USG funders. If so, they should publish it for all to review.
>
>
> Now, Andrew's statement is carefully worded, i.e. it does allow for the
> possibility that Tor lost the USG money but they think it was not
> Jacob/WikiLeaks-related.
>
> So it would be good to know whether a) Tor did lose some or all of USG
> support between late 2010 and early 2012? and b) there is any evidence to
> link this to WL, as Assange did?
>
> Whatever the motivation, USG cutting support to circumvention tools is a
> big news item all in itself, regardless of the link to Assange. I wonder
> why it wasn't more widely reported, if true - perhaps, by Tor project
> itself?-  because ultimately this would all be visible on Tor's financial
> statements.
>
> Evgeny
>
>
>
>
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