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[liberationtech] Assange's claim about Tor losing US government support due to WikiLeaks

SiNA sina.rabbani at gmail.com
Sun Feb 19 12:28:54 PST 2012


can you explain why this news is such a big deal? who cares what cryptom
thinks?

Why do so many people hate Jake and Tor?
On Feb 19, 2012 10:41 AM, "Evgeny Morozov" <evgeny.morozov at gmail.com> wrote:

> Those of you who've read Assange's recent interview with The Rolling Stone<http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/julian-assange-the-rolling-stone-interview-20120118?print=true>may have noticed this claim (in response to a question about forms of
> pressure that US government exerted on WikiLeaks and their supporters):
>
> The Tor Project, which protects people around the world from being spied
>> on or censored, lost some $600,000 to the U.S. government, as a result of
>> one of their people, Jacob Appelbaum, having filled in for me once at a
>> conference in New York. This type of indirect pressure has been applied to
>> a great many people.
>
>
> I was a bit puzzled by it. So were people at Cryptome<http://cryptome.org/2012/01/0053.htm>,
> who asked Tor about it. Here is what Andrew Lewman (who's on this list)
> wrote to them:
>
> I read this statement as well. It is news to me that we were penalized
> for Jacob. Maybe wikileaks has unreleased information from one of our
> USG funders. If so, they should publish it for all to review.
>
>
> Now, Andrew's statement is carefully worded, i.e. it does allow for the
> possibility that Tor lost the USG money but they think it was not
> Jacob/WikiLeaks-related.
>
> So it would be good to know whether a) Tor did lose some or all of USG
> support between late 2010 and early 2012? and b) there is any evidence to
> link this to WL, as Assange did?
>
> Whatever the motivation, USG cutting support to circumvention tools is a
> big news item all in itself, regardless of the link to Assange. I wonder
> why it wasn't more widely reported, if true - perhaps, by Tor project
> itself?-  because ultimately this would all be visible on Tor's financial
> statements.
>
> Evgeny
>
>
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