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[liberationtech] Comments from Chile
annalist at riseup.net
Tue Jul 31 17:25:13 PDT 2012
I just tried to send a reply to the sender of this email but got an
error message in return - user unknown.
In case the author(s) is/are reading the list or someone who's
subscribed knows how to get in touch: I'd like to know whether this
information can be published and/or wether it has been already, or even
parts of it?
(In English, that is)
Am 01.08.12 01:22, schrieb radioactivity at riseup.net:
> To the security community focused on helping social strugglers all over
> the world.
> First, thanks for all your efforts on building tools for human and social
> liberation, this is a feedback from Chile written as suggestion from some
> of you and we hope you enjoy. Several parts from this material wasn't
> taken in a legal way, I'm not going to offer any proofs about this as that
> can means tracking the people who helped to get this information, making
> them face jail charges and torture on interrogations. If you want to check
> if this statements are true, check the provided links and ask about this
> to people in Chile.
> Note: Even if we know your work is mostly focused on the middle east,
> several tools you have made had helped on simple daily stuff like privacy.
> We are not facing the same conditions or circunstances as some comrades in
> the middle east are. We are trying to created a new world away from
> capitalism values and with the total erradication of heriarchy. We assume
> an offensive step for this in everywhere, and you can judge as much as you
> want for this.
> On Agust 14th of 2010 several squats were raided. 14 comrades were put in
> prison for beeing anarchists and squatters, but facing charges of
> terrorism association. The police had been investigating for 4 years a
> serie of bomb explosions in Santiago, and decided that those 14 comrades
> were responsibles for that. When i said decided it's because several
> proofs were lies, some whitness were paid, but we only knew this in 2012,
> when the 14 were set free without charges. The man in charge of this
> operation is now a high range person in government, as a price for what hi
> did, but the State didn't thought every "proof" they had were going to
> fall after the truth about them were found.
> That was the context
> Some people (can be one, can be two, can be three, should be infinte)
> decided to check the facts of this. They got a copy of several
> investigation books and a list of more than 200 people beeing
> investigated. That list was published on Hommodolars website on May 2011
> (http://www.hommodolars.org/web/spip.php?article4031). The list included
> several anarchists, native people supportes and media activists as people
> suspected for the explosions. All this people had their phones tapped for
> years, without any resistance for a telephone company, but all of them
> with a justice call. None of the phones were tapped on al illegal way for
> Chilean law, but the privacy of this 200 people was breached and none of
> them related to the explosions.
> The investigation books had inside several interesting stuff about the
> local police behavoir, but for you this in what you need to know:
> First ship of books (to 2010):
> - There were pretty close photographs of every investigated person. The
> books had more than 200 suspects.
> - There were transcripts of several phone conversations, also hotmail's
> menssenger chat.
> - There were screenshots taken from hotmail.com accounts from files
> obtained using Forensic Toolkit software, the bottom line of the files
> reveals those were temporary files. At least one person got this.
> - There were screenshots taken from hacked passwords from gmail.com
> accounts. At least 4 people got this.
> - There were several supperficial analysis of webservices and webpages:
> flickr.com, blogspot.com, entodaspartes.org, santiago.indymedia.org,
> valparaiso.indymedia.org, nodo50.org wordpress.com, indymedia.org,
> riseup.net. The data included physical location to html tags used, related
> names, and that kind of stuff.
> - There were examples of transcribed chats using OTR, and mails using PGP
> in ascii. They were not cracked.
> As the case was going to nowhere, the investigation continued. There are
> more than 400 persons in the investigation list. This is what was found.
> Current ship of books (to 2012):
> What is inside:
> - At least 4 crypto.cat chats were intercepted and transcribed. (Feb 2012)
> - More than 20 gmail.com accounts accessed. (2010-2012)
> - Several facebook.com account accesed, but most of the data transcribed.
> - Several complaints against OTR and PGP on internal memos. They asked for
> help to FBI to break them, no more data about this.
> - Deeper investigation of websites, including visits by police to some
> people who work on alternative media projects. There is a strong analysis
> for riseup.net... from software used, location, email contacts, source
> code and groups that use them.
> What is not inside:
> - No mentions for tor, i2p or freenet.
> - No mentions for riseup.net hacked accounts.
> - No mentions how they got that data.
> But we can always ask the affected ones. The most interesting here for you
> is how they got access to crypto.cat chatlogs. That chats were taken from
> 7pm to 11pm on 4 different days. We don't know how they got them but we
> reducted the possibilities to two scenarios.
> The first one that a chilean computer got infected by some spyware, as
> they got confiscated (the raids continued until now, not yet to somebody
> related to the bombs case) we can no be sure about this.
> The second one is one that happened to a friendly italian project to
> chileans named Inventati in 2005. Chilean an Italian polices are working
> together on this and several cases, so that's a possibility, also we know
> that this web service is hosted in the US and the FBI is currently helping
> chile on investigation of activists and media projects online. That case
> is documented here http://www.inventati.org/ai/crackdown/
> One of the clients of this chatlogs was an ubuntu 11.10, no issues on
> accepting a weird cert or notifications. The main browser was mozilla
> firefox, not using tor. The transcribed chat was recognized and didn't had
> any important information but organizing some activity to get funds for
> supporting political prisoners. This computer was part of only one of the
> The other interesting stuff is, that even is very popular in activists
> circles (more than pgp, probably the same as otr), TOR is not mentioned at
> all. We don't know what this means, probably is just too new technology
> for here, but it noticeable.
> But i was not asked to write this just to let you notice what's wrong with
> gmail, hotmail and facebook, what's failing with crypto.cat and why is
> your work important for people in the south fighting for social justice.
> Yes, we can face defeats, but it really demoralizing to see 30 police
> officers breaking your home and exposing all your life just because your
> political and life position... all broadcasted by television. None of them
> was related to the bombs, none of us is related to the bombs, that's just
> an excuse to fuck our lives. We need you to keep working on this, and
> educate people everywhere. Our dictatorship ended in 1990, but before that
> the only way to survive as resistence was to share knowledge and
> practices, we need to keep that today.
> Thanks for your efforts, and sorry for my engrish.
> ps. I attached a official request of info from Chile to microsoft as a old
> non problematic (for any of us) proof.
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