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[liberationtech] Avaaz, is this for real?

Yosem Companys companys at stanford.edu
Fri May 4 15:02:14 PDT 2012


I usually don't comment on these matters, but I know Jeremy and Ricken at
Avaaz, and I would find it VERY DIFFICULT to believe that Avaaz would have
purposefully pretended that they were cyber attacked as a
marketing/fundraising gimmick.

Yosem

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Jillian C. York <jilliancyork at gmail.com>wrote:

> I'm going with naive.  That would certainly make sense given the other
> naive mistakes they've made, not least in Syria.
>
> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Jim Youll <jyoull at alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>
>> ... or they're just scared, or naive...
>>
>> these attacks - and that is the right word, even the only intent is "fun"
>> - are confusing and upsetting and hard to understand until you burn the log
>> files down to reveal what really went on. ..
>>
>> apart from receipt of specific correspondence from the instigator, which
>> is rare but not unprecedented IMO,  there's no way to tell a directed
>> attack from script kid's afternoon of fun...
>>
>> On May 4, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Steve Weis wrote:
>>
>> "...globally-distributed botnet of thousands of computers..."
>>
>> Someone could rent thousands of botnet agents for two days for a couple
>> hundred dollars:
>>
>> http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/study-finds-the-average-price-for-renting-a-botnet/6528
>>
>> "Avaaz does not have any further information about who is behind it..."
>>
>> They were claiming that this was an attack so sophisticated and massive
>> that it could have only been perpetrated by a nation state or large
>> corporation, yet they have no further information about who was behind it?
>> I think they hyped it up to drive fundraising.
>>
>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Andrew Couts <andrew_couts at yahoo.com>wrote:
>>
>>> *Avaaz statement on the attack on the site*
>>> An attack on Avaaz’s website from a globally-distributed botnet of
>>> thousands of computers ended yesterday (Thursday 3rd May). Avaaz does not
>>> have any further information about who is behind it but the FBI have been
>>> notified about this incident.
>>>
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