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[liberationtech] Avaaz, is this for real?

Jillian C. York jilliancyork at gmail.com
Fri May 4 17:24:45 PDT 2012


Unless those 33,000 individual donations were less than $1 each, I don't
really see what you're getting at.

On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Shaun Wilde <s.wilde.libtech at gmail.com>wrote:

> Clarification. That's 33,000 *individual donations. *Not $33k. That
> should get them started.
> -sw
>
> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Dave Karpf <davekarpf at gmail.com> wrote:
> Agreed that that's what makes it importantly different. This wasn't the
> Comm department responding to reporters, it was an active fundraising ask.
>
> I'm withholding judgment for the moment, but sincerely hope the Avaaz
> folks will be more open with the tech experts on this list. At the moment,
> this looks a LOT like a crass fundraising ploy. If so, I personally would
> lose a lot of respect for the org.
>
> DK
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
>
> On May 4, 2012, at 6:36 PM, Okhin <okhin at okhin.fr> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 4 May 2012 15:48:35 -0400
> > Sahar Massachi <Sahar at brandeis.edu> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm a bit concerned about all the muttering about Avaaz's
> sensationalism.
> >>
> >> Please correct me if I'm misunderstanding something, but the following
> >> scenario seems pretty plausible to me:
> >>
> >> The Avaaz site comes under some sort of attack. The tech team at Avaaz
> >> gives a quick "idiots guide" to what's going on to their communications
> >> team, and then goes back to trying to deal with the problem. The
> >> communications team has a partially confused understanding of exactly
> >> what's going on, but tries to deal with the situation as best they can.
> >> When technically minded journalists want to talk to Avaaz, the
> >> communications staff doesn't want to bother their still-hard-at-work
> tech
> >> team, so they give unsatisfying, vague, and unhelpful replies to these
> >> journalists".
> >>
> >> Am I missing something?
> >>
> >
> > Yeah, they started a funding campaign to fight the attack and, while
> > the attack has stopped (according to their claim), it's still open and
> > their goal is 35k$ (and they're at 33k$)for what?
> > https://secure.avaaz.org/en/massive_attack_on_avaaz_a/?fp
> >
> > Next time I've got a spam bot raiding my corporate network, I'll ask
> this amount of money to my boss. Just to see he's face.
> >
> > Okhin
> >
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