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[liberationtech] Avaaz, is this for real?

Shaun Wilde s.wilde.libtech at gmail.com
Fri May 4 17:39:42 PDT 2012


Was clarifying Okhin's musing about what their goal of 35k$ was for. Their
goal is 35,000 *donations*.  Likely to the tune of... who knows. $500,000?
If we're wondering what they'd do with 35k$, an even more interesting
brainstorm is what they'll do with 500k$. Hard to know without knowing
anything about the attack--except that it was massive.
*-sw

*


On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 12:24 AM, Jillian C. York <jilliancyork at gmail.com>wrote:

> Unless those 33,000 individual donations were less than $1 each, I don't
> really see what you're getting at.
>
>
> On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Shaun Wilde <s.wilde.libtech at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Clarification. That's 33,000 *individual donations. *Not $33k. That
>> should get them started.
>> -sw
>>
>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Dave Karpf <davekarpf at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Agreed that that's what makes it importantly different. This wasn't the
>> Comm department responding to reporters, it was an active fundraising ask.
>>
>> I'm withholding judgment for the moment, but sincerely hope the Avaaz
>> folks will be more open with the tech experts on this list. At the moment,
>> this looks a LOT like a crass fundraising ploy. If so, I personally would
>> lose a lot of respect for the org.
>>
>> DK
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 4, 2012, at 6:36 PM, Okhin <okhin at okhin.fr> wrote:
>>
>> > On Fri, 4 May 2012 15:48:35 -0400
>> > Sahar Massachi <Sahar at brandeis.edu> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'm a bit concerned about all the muttering about Avaaz's
>> sensationalism.
>> >>
>> >> Please correct me if I'm misunderstanding something, but the following
>> >> scenario seems pretty plausible to me:
>> >>
>> >> The Avaaz site comes under some sort of attack. The tech team at Avaaz
>> >> gives a quick "idiots guide" to what's going on to their communications
>> >> team, and then goes back to trying to deal with the problem. The
>> >> communications team has a partially confused understanding of exactly
>> >> what's going on, but tries to deal with the situation as best they can.
>> >> When technically minded journalists want to talk to Avaaz, the
>> >> communications staff doesn't want to bother their still-hard-at-work
>> tech
>> >> team, so they give unsatisfying, vague, and unhelpful replies to these
>> >> journalists".
>> >>
>> >> Am I missing something?
>> >>
>> >
>> > Yeah, they started a funding campaign to fight the attack and, while
>> > the attack has stopped (according to their claim), it's still open and
>> > their goal is 35k$ (and they're at 33k$)for what?
>> > https://secure.avaaz.org/en/massive_attack_on_avaaz_a/?fp
>> >
>> > Next time I've got a spam bot raiding my corporate network, I'll ask
>> this amount of money to my boss. Just to see he's face.
>> >
>> > Okhin
>> >
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