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[liberationtech] Avaaz, is this for real?

Jillian C. York jilliancyork at gmail.com
Fri May 4 22:49:15 PDT 2012


Ah, apologies, I read the comment backwards, so to speak.

On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 2:39 AM, Shaun Wilde <s.wilde.libtech at gmail.com>wrote:

> Was clarifying Okhin's musing about what their goal of 35k$ was for. Their
> goal is 35,000 *donations*.  Likely to the tune of... who knows.
> $500,000? If we're wondering what they'd do with 35k$, an even more
> interesting brainstorm is what they'll do with 500k$. Hard to know without
> knowing anything about the attack--except that it was massive.
> *-sw
>
> *
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 12:24 AM, Jillian C. York <jilliancyork at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Unless those 33,000 individual donations were less than $1 each, I don't
>> really see what you're getting at.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Shaun Wilde <s.wilde.libtech at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Clarification. That's 33,000 *individual donations. *Not $33k. That
>>> should get them started.
>>> -sw
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Dave Karpf <davekarpf at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Agreed that that's what makes it importantly different. This wasn't the
>>> Comm department responding to reporters, it was an active fundraising ask.
>>>
>>> I'm withholding judgment for the moment, but sincerely hope the Avaaz
>>> folks will be more open with the tech experts on this list. At the moment,
>>> this looks a LOT like a crass fundraising ploy. If so, I personally would
>>> lose a lot of respect for the org.
>>>
>>> DK
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 4, 2012, at 6:36 PM, Okhin <okhin at okhin.fr> wrote:
>>>
>>> > On Fri, 4 May 2012 15:48:35 -0400
>>> > Sahar Massachi <Sahar at brandeis.edu> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I'm a bit concerned about all the muttering about Avaaz's
>>> sensationalism.
>>> >>
>>> >> Please correct me if I'm misunderstanding something, but the following
>>> >> scenario seems pretty plausible to me:
>>> >>
>>> >> The Avaaz site comes under some sort of attack. The tech team at Avaaz
>>> >> gives a quick "idiots guide" to what's going on to their
>>> communications
>>> >> team, and then goes back to trying to deal with the problem. The
>>> >> communications team has a partially confused understanding of exactly
>>> >> what's going on, but tries to deal with the situation as best they
>>> can.
>>> >> When technically minded journalists want to talk to Avaaz, the
>>> >> communications staff doesn't want to bother their still-hard-at-work
>>> tech
>>> >> team, so they give unsatisfying, vague, and unhelpful replies to these
>>> >> journalists".
>>> >>
>>> >> Am I missing something?
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > Yeah, they started a funding campaign to fight the attack and, while
>>> > the attack has stopped (according to their claim), it's still open and
>>> > their goal is 35k$ (and they're at 33k$)for what?
>>> > https://secure.avaaz.org/en/massive_attack_on_avaaz_a/?fp
>>> >
>>> > Next time I've got a spam bot raiding my corporate network, I'll ask
>>> this amount of money to my boss. Just to see he's face.
>>> >
>>> > Okhin
>>> >
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