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[liberationtech] Privacy, Moglen, @ioerror, #rp12

Fran Parker lilbambi at
Thu May 10 05:05:51 PDT 2012

I am not sure that's the case.

Maybe what Carl Sagan saw was that, despite how he felt, if left 
unchecked, greed takes all -- at the expense of all.

Therefore there must at least be *some* checks and balances to prevent 
greed from taking all.

But then, you may still be right ...

If giving in to allow at least *some* checks and balances, then you 
might find that it also opens the doors for the greed to corrupt the 
very checks and balances meant to do good...

Sigh...vicious cycle...

Sadly, I think there is a very good chance that is what happened in the USA.

On 5/10/12 7:52 AM, StealthMonger wrote:

> So in an uncharacteristic weak moment, Sagan fell victim to the
> popular misconception that a nation is something worth preserving.
> In fact, a nation can be regarded as the institutionalized violation
> of the golden and silver rules about which Sagan so sagaciously wrote.
> - --
>   -- StealthMonger<StealthMonger at>
>       ... who has not requested or consented to any political jurisdiction

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