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[liberationtech] Secure Your Domain - Where Is Safe to Register a Domain Name? -

Douglas Lucas dal at
Thu May 10 13:11:32 PDT 2012

Hi everyone,

I'm surprised the original post (
ruled out Iceland. They gave its economic troubles as the reason. Any
thoughts on .is specifically?


On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Bill Woodcock <woody at> wrote:

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> On May 10, 2012, at 9:04 AM, liberationtech at wrote:
> > A more thorough answer would involve the cross-section of MLATs,
> > Military assistance treaties, and global copyright agreements.
> Yes, exactly…  Basically, diplomacy involves a lot of trading unrelated
> interests off against each other…  Domain takedowns exchanged for food aid,
> or loan guarantees, or a partial relaxation of trade tariffs, or whatever.
>  So the more active the diplomacy between two countries, and the greater
> the imbalance of power between them, the less you want to hang your hat on
> the stability of domain names in the weaker one.
> > For example, if you wanted to start a cool new file sharing site, base
> > it in Iran, Iraq, Cuba, Libya, Syria, Belarus, Zimbabwe, or Burma.
> Actually, I'd strongly disagree with that, for two reasons.  First, rule
> of law corresponds strongly with stability of the DNS…  In  a country with
> weak rule of law, high corruption, high volatility, you're likely to have
> an arbitrary takedown based on completely other issues:
> Moreover, registering domains in such countries is often a matter of
> walking into the communications ministry, cash in hand, and showing your
> citizenship papers or domestic incorporation papers.
> The second reason is in countries with volatile politics, like all of
> those you cited, things can change very quickly.  I just spent the last
> four days in Tripoli, and things are very different there now than they
> were a year ago, and they'll be still more different a year from now.
>  They're both becoming more religious, more political, and more aligned
> with and dependent upon their relationship with the U.S. government.  Make
> no mistake, it's an infinitely better place to live now than it was a year
> ago, and in general terms of "Internet freedoms" it's much better now and
> on a very good trajectory.  I just wouldn't count on it being friendly to
> interests to which the USG is hostile; that time is past.
> And the same thing could happen in any of the other countries you cite,
> very quickly, if the political winds swing another direction.
> In Switzerland, that's unlikely to happen.  On the contrary, they've been
> strengthening their laws protecting domains against _private sector_
> takedowns.
>                                -Bill
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