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[liberationtech] Privacy, Moglen, @ioerror, #rp12

Pavol Luptak wilder at
Sun May 13 14:27:25 PDT 2012

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 03:31:01PM -0400, Fran Parker wrote:
> Wow, that is the second posting from you Shava that was a wow moment
> in this discussion.
> So many great thoughts from so many today!
> It really does seem that ethics are often sacrificed in the presence
> of the influence* of power AND/OR greed regardless of the source
> (government, corporate, religious).
> *influence -- how many times have we seen greedy government
> officials give over slowly but surely to corporate interests in the
> presence of corporate lobbyists/influence whether in thought and/or
> through their own greed.

People are greedy, they were and they will. They care about their 
self-interest. It's evolutional.

If you put these greedy people to the decentralized free-market, they want 
(as company owners) to gain as much as possible money. On a free-market this 
can be achieved by selling their products/services to many customers. 
If you want to address many people, you just need to offer high-quality 
products/services, low prices or just better products/services than your
As you can see this "entrepreneur's greediness" is transformed to real 
benefits of all people in the society.

And now imagine when you put these greedy people to the government :-)

[wilder at] [] [talker: 5678]

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