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[liberationtech] Commercialization makes your online rights irrelevant, more thoughts from my talk with @ioerror at #rp12
dk at telekommunisten.net
Mon May 21 01:18:01 PDT 2012
On 20.05.2012 23:54, StealthMonger wrote:
> Speak for yourself. Others simply go their own way in peace, perhaps
> occasionally temporarily detouring to cooperate with others in some
> mutually beneficial endeavor.
Nothing I have read from anthropology nor psychology bears this out,
both portray us as a deeply social species and suggest that our primary
motivations are social ones, not individual utility maximization. We
don't temporary detour to co-operation, co-operation is our natural
state, and the reason for of our success as a species. It's quite the
opposite, those that "go there own way" are either on a temporary
detour, or simply outliers. There are 7 billion of us, and by large we
work together, share and compromise with each other, and our survival
depends on this.
>> If we can't collectively decide ... then we can have neither
>> nor freedom.
> Freedom is the absence of political subjugation of dissidents.
Freedom is much more than that.
> Democracy does not respect freedom (the secret ballot has no shame)
> becomes tyranny of the majority -- the most robust kind of tyranny.
So how do you propose we make collective decisions? Might makes right?
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