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Ali-Reza Anghaie ali at
Tue Nov 6 10:34:44 PST 2012

Seriously - what's your agenda?

Where are the domains for the other tens of providers who charge arms and
legs based on closed protocols even?

What's the nit with Silent Circle specifically? Because they're accessible?
Because it's easier to use? Because the founders have good track records of
standing up to Government too?

Being absolutist about everything isn't helping anyone who ~needs~ it -
it's a privilege of the "haves" that we can have these conversations over
and over again.

Shouldn't we have taken the "fight" to carriers, Apple iOS T&Cs, etc.
harder and longer ago? And why do we keep expecting private entities to
fight our Government battles for us? It's a losing proposition and
increases the costs-per-individual to untenable levels when we mix
absolutely all their enterprise with civil liberty issues.

There has got to be a better way than this ridiculous trolling and
bickering. Someone? Anyone?

Again, seriously, what's the agenda against Silent Circle specifically?


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