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Griffin Boyce griffinboyce at
Tue Nov 6 17:17:16 PST 2012

On 11/06/2012 04:28 PM, Maxim Kammerer wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Roger Dingledine <arma at> wrote:
>> it's times like this that
>> I'm glad I work for a non-profit that doesn't have to make a business
>> tradeoff to decide how much to lie to its users.
> *cough*
> Hate to recycle one of my past favorite discussion topics, but:
> Ctrl-F “hidden services” → hey, who has ever heard about military uses
> of Tor hidden services, and where's the CP and illicit drugs trade
> that everyone is familiar with. Oh, right — Tor project is reluctant
> (to say the least) to publicly acknowledge the currently primary use
> of hidden services in fear of losing authorities goodwill and funding
> sources.
Has anyone asked Tim Berners-Lee about child pornography lately? Cell
phones are used by drug dealers, and my dicing knife doubles as a deadly
weapon. There's a world of difference between the inventor's intended
use and those secondary uses.

It's a bit silly to confront Ginsu about knife crime, is all I'm saying.
"How's about making knives less sharp?"

Griffin Boyce

"I believe that usability is a security concern; systems that do 
not pay close attention to the human interaction factors involved 
risk failing to provide security by failing to attract users."
~Len Sassaman

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