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[liberationtech] My rant to demandprogress

Uncle Zzzen unclezzzen at
Tue Nov 13 00:38:59 PST 2012

Hi, David.
Sorry to hear about all those SANFUs.

Nevertheless, I think there should be some methodology or "code of conduct"
for anyone requesting others to put a banner:
A banner should never lead to an irrelevant page (at least if nothing major
goes wrong).

In most cases, a single large link (e.g. to the campaign's blog) can solve
this, but "eternal relevance" is a prerequisite that should be dealt with
even before you offer the banner to webmasters. Otherwise, it's quite a lot
of work to "weed out" banners from many sites the day the page they lead to
stops being relevant.

For example - yesterday I've discovered yet-another ball-and-chain banner
on a blog I forgot about (hopefully, it's the last one). This is what
triggered my rant :)

All the best,
The Dod

On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 5:18 AM, David Moon <moon at> wrote:

> RE: On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Uncle Zzzen <unclezzzen at>wrote:
>> If you sometimes put demandprogress banners on your sites, I think you
>> should be concerned about this:
> Ah yes, belated apologies for our delay in updating folks on the Kirstaeng
> v. Wiley situation. I just emailed the blogger in question. We've been
> digging out from work after the election (and of course Hurricane pause -
> where I was stranded out of the country - oy!).
> In any case, over 2,000 sites participated in the day of action, and we're
> noticing a shift in the dialogue (see eg: google news search on "Kirstaeng
> v. Wiley"). Here's an early article:
> We're optimistic we may win in court (decision around June), but either
> way this will likely end up as an issue in Congress. We're already hearing
> murmurs that industry lobbyists are setting up meetings on the Hill to
> pitch their case to restrict consumers from being able to re-sell their
> goods. Over the coming weeks and months, we'll be building out activities
> to try and counter this effort and build awareness among ordinary Internet
> users and members of Congress about the erosion of "First Sale."
> Stay tuned & thanks again (sorry for the delay)!  Lots more info at:
> -David @ Demand Progress
> --
> David Moon, Program Director
> Demand Progress
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