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[liberationtech] Silent Circle to publish source code?

Nadim Kobeissi nadim at
Thu Oct 11 15:26:28 PDT 2012

On 10/11/2012 5:51 PM, Ryan Gallagher wrote:
> To Nadim: I'm interested to know, did you contact anyone at SC before
> writing your blog post? Seems to me you arrived at your rather scathing
> conclusion largely on the basis of an assumption. A sort of shoot first,
> ask questions later approach. It actually says on the SC website that SC
> will use "Open Source Peer-Reviewed Encryption." It also says,
> unambiguously, "/We believe in open source/."

It's almost impossible to develop the software Silent Circle is
attempting to develop without using at least one open source library -
this is in fact accentuated in my blog post.
I sincerely apologize if my post is jumping the gun a bit, but aside
from reassurances in private press conferences, Silent Circle hasn't
made any statement that supports their releasing their code as open
source. In fact, they have been very ambiguous on this issue prior to
their alleged private statements yesterday and today.

I will update my blog post the moment they announce that Silent Circle
will be open source. I don't mean to "shoot first, ask questions later,"
but rather highlight serious potential dangers.

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>> From: companys at
>> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:48:03 -0700
>> To: liberationtech at
>> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Silent Circle to publish source code?
>> We both received the same messages from Ryan Gallagher and Dan Gillmor:
>> @rj_gallagher: @kaepora FYI I met with SC's CEO today for piece I'm
>> doing + he told me they'll be making everything open source.
>> That's why I added the question mark, in case someone on the list knew
>> anymore (for example, when -- what date? -- do they plan to publish
>> the code).
>> I've contacted @Silent_Circle via Twitter and invited them on to
>> Liberationtech. If anyone knows how to reach someone on the team
>> directly, please let me know.
>> It'd be nice to send them a personal invitation, so we can talk to the
>> team directly rather than have a secondhand conversation.
>> Best,
>> Yosem
>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Nadim Kobeissi <nadim at> wrote:
>> > It would have been much nicer to create this thread based on real source
>> > code, instead of a tweet based on word of mouth. We'll see.
>> >
>> > NK
>> >
>> > On 10/11/2012 3:27 PM, Yosem Companys wrote:
>> >> Dan Gillmor @dangillmor: @kaepora Phil Zimmerman told me yesterday
>> >> that Silent Circle (contrary to what you say in your post) will
>> >> publish source code.
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