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[liberationtech] Website censorship in the US

Brian Conley brianc at
Wed Dec 18 11:28:24 PST 2013

Thanks for your response Maxim.

As I said, I'm doing what I can to see your site unblocked. Perhaps you
failed to read that item? Again, I understand you don't really care about
getting it unblocked, but I do.

As far as I can understand, of course ISPs block IP addresses they deem
malicious, I'm not sure why that's bad practice? If you'd like to explain
further why that might not be normal behavior, I'm always interested to
learn new information.

Good luck.

On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Maxim Kammerer <mk at> wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Brian Conley <brianc at>
> wrote:
> > Sure, it's clear you're not looking for a constructive outcome, just
> crying
> > foul. I get that.
> No, I was trying to figure out whether blocking by IP at ISP level is
> par the course in the USA now.
> > In my experience contacting service providers works wonders.
> Again, I posted a link to an AT&T forum where customers are
> complaining about the issue for nearly a month. Try not to ignore what
> is written to you specifically.
> > I'm more interested to know what the cause was, and whether it
> > was due to malicious intent.
> As written previously ITT and in the AT&T forum link above, it is
> pretty clear that the reason is malware hosted on the same IP block.
> > Your initial email starting this thread implies
> > malicious intent
> No, it does not, it implies censorship at ISP level.
> > Of course ISPs censor content, particularly if the site is
> > rightly or wrongly listed as a source of malware. I don't think that is
> > unusual at all.
> In the USA, perhaps — it's not normal where I live, more so if the
> block is at the IP level, and not e.g., some kind of DNS redirection.
> Look, I understand that you are some kind of journalist, and as such
> probably have issues with critical thinking skills and with biased
> reading comprehension, but do try to understand that this is a thread
> about technical issues of Internet censorship in the US, and not about
> what should / should not be considered important propaganda-wise.
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