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[liberationtech] Wickr app aims to safeguard online privacy

Nadim Kobeissi nadim at nadim.cc
Sat Feb 2 19:49:58 PST 2013


I wonder if Chris Soghoian will ask journalists to stop hyping unproven,
closed-source, over-hyped security tools like Wickr. :-)


NK


On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Nadim Kobeissi <nadim at nadim.cc> wrote:

> The combination of tall claims, egotistical behaviour and closed-source,
> unreviewed software should be enough to make any reasonable security expert
> implore everyone to steer clear from Wickr.
>
>
> NK
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Julian Oliver <julian at julianoliver.com>wrote:
>
>> ..on Sun, Feb 03, 2013 at 09:53:23AM +0700, Nathan of Guardian wrote:
>> > Wow, a patent-pending closed-source app for Freedom(tm) only available
>> on iPhones!
>> >
>> > All of our problems are solved. ;)
>>
>> Indeed.
>>
>> Maybe it'd all be so much cleaner if we simply removed the right to
>> Freedom of
>> Association, Privacy and Free Speech entirely and made the protection of
>> them a
>> service, akin to electricity or gas. Perhaps Governments in the West and
>> elsewhere actually see the denial of these basic rights as part of a
>> market
>> stimulus plan - every right removed creates jobs and lures young
>> entrepreneurs
>> like Nico Sell (got to love the name) into the market. Perhaps privacy is
>> becoming a form of tax.
>>
>> While I joke, it is clear these companies wish to profit on the emergent
>> condition that something already and defensably ours (ie our basic human
>> rights)
>> is an untapped commodity or great potential. Better yet, it comes with
>> the added
>> bonus of looking like a front-line hero, fighting the Good Fight.
>>
>> Perhaps the ongoing threat to these rights is something business people
>> in the
>> privacy sector desire - as a means to extend their marketplace.  They are,
>> afterall, mining and trading privacy as a material, a mine that will grow
>> in
>> offering as various countries, democratic and otherwise, continue efforts
>> to
>> work against these rights.
>>
>> No for-profit, closed source business can be considered a viable partner
>> in the
>> protection of privacy. Nonetheless, Mr. Sell will probably make a killing
>> exploiting those less aware.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Julian
>>
>> >
>> > Yosem Companys <companys at stanford.edu> wrote:
>> >
>> > >Wickr app aims to safeguard online privacy
>> > >February 3, 2013, 4:33 am AFP
>> > >
>> > >SAN FRANCISCO (AFP) - Wickr co-founder Nico Sell is working toward
>> > >"geek utopia," a world where people hold the power when it comes to
>> > >who sees what they share on the Internet or from their phones.
>> > >
>> > >The startup's services -- giving users of Apple gadgets uncrackable
>> > >communications that can self-destruct -- were beefed up this week,
>> > >just in time for reports of cyber spies trying to snoop on Western
>> > >journalists covering China.
>> > >
>> > >The free software, available at Apple's online App Store, was enhanced
>> > >to let people send encrypted file attachments programmed to erase
>> > >themselves. The original service, released in June, only worked on the
>> > >data within text, picture, video and voice messages.
>> > >
>> > >"It shows the bigger vision of where we are going," Sell said Friday.
>> > >
>> > >"We plan on overlaying this protocol on every communication channel
>> > >that exists in the online world," continued Sell, a key
>> > >behind-the-scenes figure at the famous Def Con hacker gathering that
>> > >takes place annually in Las Vegas.
>> > >
>> > >"It's geek utopia, and we think we can get to it."
>> > >
>> > >Wickr has a patent pending on technology which Sell said could give
>> > >people ways to safeguard anything they send or put online, even
>> > >digital bytes in Internet telephone calls or posts to leading social
>> > >network Facebook.
>> > >
>> > >"We expect to have it all covered by the end of the year," Sell said.
>> > >"The idea is you would use Wickr to interact with all the other
>> > >networks."
>> > >
>> > >Wickr will evolve to be able to hide pictures posted at Facebook
>> > >behind "decoy images," with permission needed to look behind the
>> > >masks, according to company co-founder Robert Statica.
>> > >
>> > >"There will be a decoy image that the public sees, and you clear your
>> > >friends or your group to see the real image," explained Statica, a
>> > >professor of information technology at the New Jersey Institute of
>> > >Technology.
>> > >
>> > >"We will let people make regular Facebook posts if they don't care
>> > >about privacy."
>> > >
>> > >Unlike many other apps, Wickr is designed not to store any information
>> > >mined from people's contact lists.
>> > >
>> > >"Right now Facebook has all my contact information even though I
>> > >boycott Facebook, because a bunch of my friends uploaded it with their
>> > >contact lists," Sell said. "This needs to change as an industry."
>> > >
>> > >The Wickr app has been downloaded hundreds of thousands of times in
>> > >more than 110 countries since the software crafted for iPhones, iPads,
>> > >and iPod touch devices hit the App Store, according to the
>> > >co-founders.
>> > >
>> > >"Private communication is a universal human right," Sell said.
>> > >"Freedom: there's an app for that."
>> > >
>> > >The San Francisco-based startup behind the software is working on
>> > >versions of Wickr for smartphones or tablets powered by Google-backed
>> > >Android software.
>> > >
>> > >Wickr's business plan is to have hundreds of millions of people
>> > >globally use the free versions of the application while a small
>> > >percentage opt to pay for premium features such as being able to
>> > >control larger data files.
>> > >
>> > >"We are trying to flip messaging on its head and give control to the
>> > >sender instead of the receiver or the servers in between," Sell said.
>> > >
>> > >"We can't expect these cloud services to protect our privacy; we need
>> > >to do it ourselves."
>> > >
>> > >More information about the application was available online at
>> > >mywickr.com.
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