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[liberationtech] Is the Cyberwar beginning?

KheOps kheops at ceops.eu
Tue Feb 5 11:13:42 PST 2013


Make datalove, not cyberwar. Cyberwar is some uninteresting rhetoric to
spread fear, kthxbye =)



Le 05/02/2013 20:07, Andreas Bader a écrit :
> On 01/31/2013 04:39 PM, Gregory Foster wrote:
>> Thanks for bringing up this subject, Andreas.
>>
>> I'll just add that aggression (cyber-aggression perhaps?) requires
>> actors.  And as Andreas points out, on January 27th the Pentagon
>> announced approval of US Cyber Command's expansion from 900 personnel
>> to 4,900 troops and civilians.
>>
>> WaPo (Jan 27) - "Pentagon to boost cybersecurity force" by Ellen
>> Nakashima:
>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/pentagon-to-boost-cybersecurity-force/2013/01/19/d87d9dc2-5fec-11e2-b05a-605528f6b712_story.html
>>
>>
>> This five-fold expansion of personnel comes in the midst of threatened
>> Defense budget cuts (the "sequester") and a draw-down of overseas
>> engagements, which signifies something about its perceived necessity. 
>> More importantly, DOD Cyber Command (which is right next door to the
>> NSA and led by the Director of the NSA) is staffing "combat mission
>> forces" now that DOD has the green light to perform offensive
>> operations across the Internet.
>>
>> There is a difference between covert operations concealed in black
>> budgets (e.g., Stuxnet) and overtly embraced state-sanctioned
>> aggression.  Remember that Stuxnet has proven it is quite possible for
>> actions initiated from the information environment to have kinetic
>> effects in physical space (destroying Iran's centrifuges IMO
>> constitutes an act of war).
>>
>> I wonder how the Internet may change as a result of this slow,
>> methodical unfolding.  And I do think we're embroiled in something
>> quite different than the hyperbolic language acts that have been
>> occurring since the early 90's.  The language acts are precipitating
>> the desired result.
>>
> Sorry for bringing this up again; but seen from your point of view this
> sounds like a new cold war.
> Hope that theres soon something like a convention for disarmament..
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