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[liberationtech] Wickr app aims to safeguard online privacy

Nadim Kobeissi nadim at
Tue Feb 5 11:17:23 PST 2013

It's highly concerning to me that the rhetoric has shifted from actual
security concerns such as auditing to whether a message deletion
feature is useful.

NK From: Jacob Appelbaum
Sent: ‎2013-‎02-‎05 2:13 PM
To: liberationtech at
Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Wickr app aims to safeguard online privacy
Brian Conley:
> Apparently Silent Circle is also proposing such a feature now.

Such a feature makes sense when we consider the pervasive world of
targeted attacks. If you compromise say, my email client today, you may
get years of email. If you compromise my Pond client today, you get a
weeks worth of messages. Such a feature is something I think is useful
and I agreed to it when I started using Pond. It is a kind of forward
secrecy that understands that attackers sometimes win but you'd like
them to not win everything for all time.

Seems rather reasonable, really. Hardly malware but hardly perfect.

All the best,

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