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[liberationtech] Wickr app aims to safeguard online privacy

Collin Anderson collin at
Tue Feb 5 11:31:55 PST 2013

> Seems rather reasonable, really. Hardly malware but hardly perfect.

Perhaps I am missing something, but isn't the point of contention that
Wickr and Silent Circle are promising trust in the destruction of messages
on the receiver side, which as far as I am aware is an improbable claim?
Again, correct me if I am wrong, but Pond does not claim that a user cannot
edit the source to extend the expiration period, let alone copy and paste
from chats, correct?

On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Jacob Appelbaum <jacob at> wrote:

> Brian Conley:
> > Apparently Silent Circle is also proposing such a feature now.
> Such a feature makes sense when we consider the pervasive world of
> targeted attacks. If you compromise say, my email client today, you may
> get years of email. If you compromise my Pond client today, you get a
> weeks worth of messages. Such a feature is something I think is useful
> and I agreed to it when I started using Pond. It is a kind of forward
> secrecy that understands that attackers sometimes win but you'd like
> them to not win everything for all time.
> Seems rather reasonable, really. Hardly malware but hardly perfect.
> All the best,
> Jake
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