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[liberationtech] Chromebooks for Risky Situations?

Brian Conley brianc at smallworldnews.tv
Wed Feb 6 19:29:30 PST 2013


Micah,

Perhaps you can tell us the secret to convince all family members and
colleagues to become Linux hackers able to be completely self-sufficient
managing their own upgrades and modifications indefinitely?

Otherwise what is your point?

It seems like you are being needlessly confrontational or outright ignoring
the quite reasonable counter arguments to various linux OSes,Ubuntu/gentoo/
etc etc being made here.
On Feb 6, 2013 7:09 PM, "micah anderson" <micah at riseup.net> wrote:

> Andy Isaacson <adi at hexapodia.org> writes:
>
> > On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 10:52:23AM -0500, micah anderson wrote:
> >> > - ChromeOS's update mechanism is automatic, transparent, and basically
> >> > foolproof.  Having bricked Ubuntu and Gentoo systems, the same is not
> >> > true of Linux.
> >>
> >> I would be surprised if you actually 'bricked' these systems, since
> >> neither operating system you mention involves a procedure that has the
> >> risk of bricking a device. I suspect this is hyperbole?
> >
> > I've had dist-upgrade (or the GUI equivalent) make an Ubuntu system
> > unbootable and unrecoverable without recourse to a rescue-image and deep
> > magic grub hacking, etc.  That counts as "bricked" when the easiest
> > course of action is to simply reinstall the OS from scratch.  It's not
> > "bricked" in the sense that an Android install gone awry can require
> > specialized hardware (JTAG dongle etc) and crypto keys to fix, but it's
> > equivalent from a user's point of view.
>
> I understand where you are going with this, but when it comes to
> terminology, I think it serves to confuse the issue to misuse the term
> 'brick'. You cannot, as you say, "simply reinstall the OS from scratch"
> on a device that has been bricked.
>
> I can't wait for the day when Google accidentally pushes an update out
> that actually bricks their devices, because when that happens, there is
> no way to "simply reinstall the OS from scratch".
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