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[liberationtech] Cryptography super-group creates unbreakable encryption

Jens Christian Hillerup jens at
Thu Feb 7 02:58:36 PST 2013

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Andreas Bader <noergelpizza at> wrote:
> Notionally there is no unbreakable encryption.
> Practically there is a unbreakable encryption (AES, SHA-3); our
> standarts are more than adequate.
> The risk with encryptions is more the possibility of a hardware hack.
> Or a bad guy beating the shit out of you with a 5 Dollar Wrench until
> you tell him the password.
> In real life no one will use a super computer to break our hardcore
> encrypted harddrives.

I think Nadim was being sarcastic. I'm also eager to see what comes
from this. I too think it's rather odd that these supposedly
respectable cryptographers are so blatantly ignoring Kirchoff's

Quickly skimmed the article; it seems that you have to trust them to
*actually* encrypt your stuff on your phone before storing it on their
servers. As with so many others, it'd behoove them to put their code
where their mouths are; I don't mind them making money off of this,
but at least they should stop leveraging their big names in the
industry to get a lot of media attention around them selling


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