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[liberationtech] Cryptography super-group creates unbreakable encryption

Gregory Maxwell greg at
Thu Feb 7 09:03:01 PST 2013

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Douglas Lucas <dal at> wrote:
> Can Silent Circle promoters explain why Zimmerman is excused from
> Kerckhoffs's principle?
> Is it because something unverifiable is allegedly better than nothing?
> Even if we had divine knowledge to tell us Silent Circle is secure,
> isn't it an overriding problem to encourage lock-in of closed source
> being acceptable for something as common as text-messaging?

Even if it were acceptable because "we" trust the source this time
that won't be clear to the public— and the next unscrupulous sake oil
salesman who comes around using identical marketing will look just as
trustworthy to the public.  Accordingly, this work still demands a
strong negative reaction if we're to continue to established in
people's mind that snazzy names, buzzword technobable, and big claims
do not show security products to be trustworthy: Only independent
auditing and open code do.

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