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[liberationtech] Cryptography super-group creates unbreakable encryption

Ali-Reza Anghaie ali at
Thu Feb 7 11:15:40 PST 2013

Inline below..

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 11:34 AM, scarp <scarp at> wrote:

> Hash: SHA512
> Jens Christian Hillerup:
> > Hear-hear. They don't need to open-source their software to
> > convince me, as long as they are open about their protocol at
> > least.
> And what if there's a second set of decryption master keys? You're
> willing to trust them because they say "We're famous guys, we won't do
> anything bad, and plus we hate naughty governments."

We need to verify everything they say is true - keys aren't generated on
servers (with the PGP Universal option for email they allow it but
discourage it). Sure, yes, absolutely we all want to verify it from source
to wire.. no argument.

The fact you can't buy into this service anonymously, so at least
> payment credentials will be available. Even if Phil says he won't be
> bad what is to stop Apple revealing your iTunes account purchased this
> application in AppStore when the necessary legal screws are applied to
> them.

They do offer the Ronin option for anonymous purchasing of the provisioning
keys - the App is free itself.

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