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[liberationtech] Cryptography super-group creates unbreakable encryption

Adam Fisk afisk at bravenewsoftware.org
Fri Feb 15 13:42:31 PST 2013


When I say million, I always mean billion...

On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Adam Fisk <a at bravenewsoftware.org> wrote:
> At the risk of getting swept up in this by consciously saying something
> unpopular, I want to put my shoulder against the wheel of the "open source
> process produces more secure software" machine. The reasons for software
> licensing are complex, as we all know, but I'm certainly more confident in
> the overall security of silent circle in its first release than I was in the
> overall security of cryptocat 1. Why? Because there are much more
> experienced people involved (not meant as a jab Nadim - PZ had about a 25
> year head start if not more) and also because they have judiciously sought
> the review of experts prior to release. If you have to choose between open
> and closed in terms of the potential for building a secure architecture, of
> course open is overall better, but there are many other factors at play,
> including the resources and expertise an organization is able to devote to
> the problem. Apple, for example, has an overall great security track record,
> with most of that code closed source. Having $100 million in the bank helps.
> A lot. It helps a lot more than the license. In fact the overall number of
> eyes on the code is likely the more relevant factor - the precise area where
> open source ostensibly scores such a resounding victory, but only if in fact
> more experienced eyes review the code than they do comparable closed source
> systems.
>
> It just seems healthier to recognize this is a complex issue, and I don't
> think reducing it to open versus closed source does that complexity justice.
>
> -Adam
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 6, 2013, Nadim Kobeissi wrote:
>>
>> What I'm trying to point out is that Silent Circle can call itself a
>> super-group creating unbreakable encryption, market closed-source software
>> towards activists, and some experts will still speak out for them
>> favourably.
>>
>>
>> NK
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 11:21 PM, Brian Conley <brianc at smallworldnews.tv>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> C'mon Nadim, that's a bit of a cheap shot, no? Do you disagree
>>> fundamentally with anything he said there?
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> On Feb 6, 2013, at 19:56, Nadim Kobeissi <nadim at nadim.cc> wrote:
>>>
>>> Chris Soghoian gives Silent Circle's unbreakable encryption an entire
>>> article's worth of lip service here, it must be really unbreakable:
>>>
>>> http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/6/3950664/phil-zimmermann-wants-to-save-you-from-your-phone
>>>
>>>
>>> NK
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Brian Conley <brianc at smallworldnews.tv>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I heard they have a super secret crypto clubhouse in the belly of an
>>>> extinct volcano.
>>>>
>>>> Other rumors suggest they built their lab in the liberated tunnels
>>>> beneath bin ladens secret lair in Pakistan...
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 6, 2013, at 19:42, Nadim Kobeissi <nadim at nadim.cc> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Actual headline.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.extremetech.com/mobile/147714-cryptography-super-group-creates-unbreakable-encryption-designed-for-mass-market
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> NK
>>>>
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