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[liberationtech] Fwd: [greg at Ubuntu, Dash, Shuttleworth and privacy]

Nadim Kobeissi nadim at
Mon Feb 18 22:12:48 PST 2013

If the Ubuntu team can't be convinced to take a policy standpoint against
things like this, then the project suffers from a cancer that runs deep and
can't be mitigated with blog posts and patches. Most users won't know
they're being tracked like this and won't be the kind of user that looks up
blog posts and patches against this sort of tracking. AKA most users fall
for this.

If this sort of behaviour from Ubuntu continues, what I would suggest is
that simply people start recommending other Linux distributions. Personally
I'm a big Fedora fan: It has the same level of ease of use and features as
Ubuntu and also a nice aesthetic and full SELinux security features across
the board. The community is also dedicated.

Seriously though, it's disturbing that even Linux geeks at Canonical can't
see how awful those decisions are. Ubuntu is really getting full of itself
these days.


On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Jacob Appelbaum <jacob at>wrote:

> Rich Kulawiec:
> > The short version is that Ubuntu is now pre-compromised.  (Or if you
> > prefer Stallman's phrasing, and I agree with him, it's spyware.)
> > And given the appallingly tone-deaf nature of Shuttleworth/Canonical's
> > responses, I very much doubt that this will be the end of it --
> > that is, I fully expect other privacy/security-adverse changes
> > to be deliberately implemented in future releases/updates/patches.
> >
> Sounds like someone should upload a package that fixes all of the
> privacy problems, eh?
> All the best,
> Jacob
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