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[liberationtech] "Chinas Internet?"

Martin Johnson greatfire at
Wed Feb 20 20:19:56 PST 2013

The majority of Internet users in Mainland China spend 100% of their online
time on Chinese websites. Google+, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Blogspot and
many more (see are completely blocked in Mainland
China. Most other foreign websites are both considerably slower than
domestic ones, and subject to keyword-based blocking of certain URLs.

The majority of Internet users outside Mainland China spend 0% of their
online time on Chinese websites. This is not just a language issue - there
are a lot of Chinese-speaking people outside of Mainland China, and several
Chinese websites have English-language interfaces. It's also because they
are slow. The Great Firewall slows down traffic in both directions. Concern
with censorship may also discourage some users, as seen recently regarding

In this sense, there is a Chinese Internet or a Chinanet, as opposed to the
rest of the Internet. They are not completely cut off from each other, but
in practice there is little communication between the two. Unfortunately.

Martin Johnson
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On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Nadim Kobeissi <nadim at> wrote:

> Most likely it's bad writing. What they likely meant by "China's Internet"
> is China's social network sphere, such as Sina Weibo communities and so
> on...
> NK
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Brian Conley <brianc at>wrote:
>> Photos of the dead sailors, their bodies gagged and blindfolded and some
>> with head wounds suggesting execution-style killings, circulated on China’s
>> Internet.
>> From:
>> I know about the GFW of course, but anyone know the exact meaning of
>> nytimes referencing "China's Internet" as opposed to "was circulated in the
>> Internet by Chinese citizens?"
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