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[liberationtech] "Chinas Internet?"

pacificboy pacificboy at gmail.com
Wed Feb 20 20:52:57 PST 2013


Martin,
Thank you for explaining. I will like to discuss more on detail and would need your help. I am the American in China that possed the VPN issue topic.

Thank you

Pacificboy

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On Feb 21, 2013, at 12:44 PM, Brian Conley <brianc at smallworldnews.tv> wrote:

> Thanks Martin, I was hoping you'd respond.
> 
> Good point, Nadim.
> 
> On Feb 20, 2013 8:20 PM, "Martin Johnson" <greatfire at greatfire.org> wrote:
> The majority of Internet users in Mainland China spend 100% of their online time on Chinese websites. Google+, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Blogspot and many more (see https://en.greatfire.org) are completely blocked in Mainland China. Most other foreign websites are both considerably slower than domestic ones, and subject to keyword-based blocking of certain URLs.
> 
> The majority of Internet users outside Mainland China spend 0% of their online time on Chinese websites. This is not just a language issue - there are a lot of Chinese-speaking people outside of Mainland China, and several Chinese websites have English-language interfaces. It's also because they are slow. The Great Firewall slows down traffic in both directions. Concern with censorship may also discourage some users, as seen recently regarding WeChat.
> 
> In this sense, there is a Chinese Internet or a Chinanet, as opposed to the rest of the Internet. They are not completely cut off from each other, but in practice there is little communication between the two. Unfortunately.
> 
> Martin Johnson
> Founder of GreatFire.org | FreeWeibo.com | Unblock.cn.com
> PGP key
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Nadim Kobeissi <nadim at nadim.cc> wrote:
> Most likely it's bad writing. What they likely meant by "China's Internet" is China's social network sphere, such as Sina Weibo communities and so on...
> 
> 
> NK
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Brian Conley <brianc at smallworldnews.tv> wrote:
> Photos of the dead sailors, their bodies gagged and blindfolded and some with head wounds suggesting execution-style killings, circulated on China’s Internet.
> 
> From: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/21/world/asia/chinese-plan-to-use-drone-highlights-military-advances.html?_r=0
> 
> I know about the GFW of course, but anyone know the exact meaning of nytimes referencing "China's Internet" as opposed to "was circulated in the Internet by Chinese citizens?"
> 
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