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[liberationtech] Interesting legal question about copyright happening right now

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Sat Feb 23 22:28:27 PST 2013

From: Dean Collins <dean at>

Interesting legal question about copyright happening right now, as you
probably know by now there was an incident in the last lap of todays
Nationwide Daytona race where several cars crashed and parts went over and
through the fence.

Whats interesting is that a fan posted a video he took from his seat in the
stands of 2 minutes after the accident.****

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YouTube pulled the video on behalf of Nascar as they are claiming copyright*

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Makes for interesting argument ****

**-       **Is Nascar within its rights as it IS private property.****

**-       **Is the fan within his rights as he posted less than 1% of the
event (eg he shot the accident scene 5 seats over where a tire landed on

Either way what has happened…..and this is so true about the internet once
something is uploaded it can never be deleted…..the video is now being
displayed on 20 different websites some which have refused to remove it in
addition to it being uploaded to youtube under many different accounts with
no mention of Nascar so cannot be located through simple keyword search.

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Any legal eagles on the list want to have a crack with your thoughts?

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…and in case you are wondering….yes of course we had a live fan chat for
todays race –

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Dean Collins
Founder – Live Fan Chat****

*Dean at*****

+1-212-203-4357  ****

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