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[liberationtech] Google Hangout the new, better skype? Was Re: Skype redux

Brian Conley brianc at
Sat Jan 5 11:59:21 PST 2013

On Dec 21, 2012 10:18 AM, "Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)" <lists at>
> On 12/21/12 6:26 PM, Nadim Kobeissi wrote:
> >
> >
> > I hear this a lot — that's a 2014 goal if there ever was one.
> > I personally can't wait for Cryptocat A/V edition! Nadim, hurry up
> > please. :)
> WebRTC technology already set the goals for DTLS-SRTP end-to-end
> encryption, maybe (have to check if passed) with human based fingerprint
> verification.
> With WebRTC the world of VoIP, Secure telephony will completely change
> and make of Skype a piece of "legacy software" .
> Faio
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Its a nice dream, but, for example, Iraqis were still broadly using
internet explorer 6.0 in 2009/10! I've not done a recent survey, but its
certainly going to be a long battle to upgrade machines and software in
many many parts of the world.

WebRTC will be amazing, but its likely a long long time out for much of the
world. Unless we are talking mobile as primary access tool, in which case
fast iteration and distribution will help, however Nokia candy bars are
still likely the most ubiquitous mobile device.

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