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[liberationtech] VPN now illegal in China

Brian Conley brianc at smallworldnews.tv
Wed Jan 23 23:13:13 PST 2013


Ben says "imports" Ben do you mean china gets their tech from other
countries (imports) or sends their tech TO other countries (exports)

B

PS if another language is easier for you please use it! Si un otra lengua
yes mejor para tu, por favor usarlo! Lo siento mi espanol es muy mal, pero
por que su nombre esta arroyo yo creo habla espanol.
On Jan 23, 2013 10:17 PM, "pacificboy" <pacificboy at gmail.com> wrote:

> In the news it has been mentioned and recently the authorizes came to my
> friends work place and order them to stop using vpn at their offices. Also
> if you google on you tube vpn illegal in china you see videos discussing
> this issue. example illegal vpn china weekly hagout dated one month ago by
> fons tuinstra or chinese security cracks down on VPN.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 24, 2013, at 1:40 PM, "Eric S Johnson" <crates at oneotaslopes.org>
> wrote:
>
> Bert raises an interesting question—where cybercensorship technology comes
> from.****
>
> ** **
>
> We know Huawei and/or ZTE make routers and switches to compete with Cisco,
> and almost by definition, that’s the level on which cybercensorship takes
> place. But I know of no cases where “the Chinese have exported the Great
> Firewall.” I’ve been to almost all of the major cybercensoring countries of
> the world, and their systems all seem to differ substantially enough from
> the Chinese one (and/or we have some information about how their
> cybercensorship works and/or where it came from). Not to mention that
> building a cybercensorship system isn’t really terribly complicated.****
>
>                Does anyone have any *evidence* that “the Chinese are
> exporting the [hardware or software behind the] GFW” (beyond hearsay,
> supposition, unfounded allegations, etc.)? (I’m not talking about the
> reports of planned re-export of US communications equipment to IR.) ****
>
> ** **
>
> Cybersurveillance … that’s a different ball (or even kettle) of wax. (For
> instance, we do have a lot of evidence of the export of Russian
> cybersurveillance systems.)****
>
> ** **
>
> Thoughts?****
>
> ** **
>
> Best,****
>
> Eric****
>
> PGP<http://keyserver.pgp.com/vkd/DownloadKey.event?keyid=0xE0F58E0F1AF7E6F2>
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* liberationtech-bounces at lists.stanford.edu [mailto:
> liberationtech-bounces at lists.stanford.edu] *On Behalf Of *Bert Arroyo
> *Sent:* 24 January 2013 12.00
> *To:* liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu
> *Subject:* [liberationtech] VPN now illegal in China****
>
> ** **
>
> Most of the discussion ion the Libtech forum, if I may states, forgot one
> important thing, China imports its tech to other countries that censor
> their citizen by using Chinese censorship software and their infamous Great
> Firewall. ****
>
> ** **
>
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