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[liberationtech] VPN now illegal in China

Brian Conley brianc at smallworldnews.tv
Wed Jan 23 23:27:12 PST 2013


Aha interesting so the speculation is that GFW tech is being exported to
Cuba Zimbabwe and Belarus? What is the evidence??
On Jan 23, 2013 11:25 PM, "pacificboy" <pacificboy at gmail.com> wrote:

> Brian
> sorry for the poor typo just typing fast on iphone will have errors. i am
> latino but born in the States. To answer you question according to
> reporters without borders, "suspects that regimes such as Cuba, Zimbabwe
> and Belarus have obtained surveillance technology from the People's
> Republic of China" from report entitled "Going online in Cuba: Internet
> under surveillance dated 2006.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 24, 2013, at 3:13 PM, Brian Conley <brianc at smallworldnews.tv>
> wrote:
>
> Ben says "imports" Ben do you mean china gets their tech from other
> countries (imports) or sends their tech TO other countries (exports)
>
> B
>
> PS if another language is easier for you please use it! Si un otra lengua
> yes mejor para tu, por favor usarlo! Lo siento mi espanol es muy mal, pero
> por que su nombre esta arroyo yo creo habla espanol.
> On Jan 23, 2013 10:17 PM, "pacificboy" <pacificboy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In the news it has been mentioned and recently the authorizes came to my
>> friends work place and order them to stop using vpn at their offices. Also
>> if you google on you tube vpn illegal in china you see videos discussing
>> this issue. example illegal vpn china weekly hagout dated one month ago by
>> fons tuinstra or chinese security cracks down on VPN.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 24, 2013, at 1:40 PM, "Eric S Johnson" <crates at oneotaslopes.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Bert raises an interesting question—where cybercensorship technology
>> comes from.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> We know Huawei and/or ZTE make routers and switches to compete with
>> Cisco, and almost by definition, that’s the level on which cybercensorship
>> takes place. But I know of no cases where “the Chinese have exported the
>> Great Firewall.” I’ve been to almost all of the major cybercensoring
>> countries of the world, and their systems all seem to differ substantially
>> enough from the Chinese one (and/or we have some information about how
>> their cybercensorship works and/or where it came from). Not to mention that
>> building a cybercensorship system isn’t really terribly complicated.****
>>
>>                Does anyone have any *evidence* that “the Chinese are
>> exporting the [hardware or software behind the] GFW” (beyond hearsay,
>> supposition, unfounded allegations, etc.)? (I’m not talking about the
>> reports of planned re-export of US communications equipment to IR.) ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Cybersurveillance … that’s a different ball (or even kettle) of wax. (For
>> instance, we do have a lot of evidence of the export of Russian
>> cybersurveillance systems.)****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Thoughts?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Best,****
>>
>> Eric****
>>
>> PGP<http://keyserver.pgp.com/vkd/DownloadKey.event?keyid=0xE0F58E0F1AF7E6F2>
>> ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* liberationtech-bounces at lists.stanford.edu [mailto:
>> liberationtech-bounces at lists.stanford.edu] *On Behalf Of *Bert Arroyo
>> *Sent:* 24 January 2013 12.00
>> *To:* liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu
>> *Subject:* [liberationtech] VPN now illegal in China****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Most of the discussion ion the Libtech forum, if I may states, forgot one
>> important thing, China imports its tech to other countries that censor
>> their citizen by using Chinese censorship software and their infamous Great
>> Firewall. ****
>>
>> ** **
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